Non-Typical Solutions

I am plus 1 on that one, he seems to fight the border issues without cowering down and I give him credit for that in a politically skewed society. Lets face it, the political scene is corrupt D R or I........

Ariz sheriff says he's gay after misconduct claims FLORENCE, Ariz. (AP) — A nationally known sheriff resigned from presidential hopeful Mitt Romney's Arizona committee and acknowledged he was gay amid allegations of misconduct made by a man with whom he previously had a relationship. But Pinal County Sheriff Paul Babeu vowed Saturday to continue his bid for the GOP nomination in Arizona's rural 4th Congressional District race. He denied claims he tried to threaten the man, a Mexican immigrant and a former campaign volunteer, with deportation if their past relationship was made public. The man's allegations were first published Friday in the Phoenix New Times, an alternative weekly magazine. Babeu, a first-term sheriff who has gained widespread attention with his strong opposition to illegal immigration and smuggling, said the accusations were an attempt to hurt his political career. He said he had called presidential candidate Mitt Romney's staff to say he would step down from his post as state campaign co-chair. "This whole rumor, this whole of idea of who I am in my private life has been shopped around," Babeu told reporters during an hour-long press conference Saturday in front of his sheriff's office. "This was a way, the hook, of how this could be brought out, and to malign and attack a sheriff who does stand for conservative principals, who does enforce the law." The man's lawyer, Melissa Weiss-Riner, released a statement Saturday saying the man retained her firm's services because he was contacted by Babeu's attorney and "felt intimidated." "Jose continues to live in fear, and is currently in the process of moving again," she said. "Therefore, he is not available to speak with the media at this time." Weiss-Riner earlier told the New Times that Babeu's attorney and campaign consultant falsely told her client that his visa had expired. Babeu told reporters he believed the man, identified only by his first name Jose, was living in the country legally. The New Times posted a photo provided by the man of the two embracing. It also posted a cellphone self-portrait of a smiling Babeu in his underwear and another of what appears to be the shirtless sheriff in a bathroom, posted on a gay dating website. The man provided the magazine with photos of himself and Babeu and text messages between the two. Babeu didn't deny their authenticity.

I'm sure if they didn't have the necessary permits your friends at the Center for Biological Diversity and the other enviro wacko groups will be filling another lawsuit at taxpayers expense. Lets get one thing straight those groups aren't my friends, pals, or even acquaintances. Just because their agenda is the same as mine doesn't put us in the same category or even in the same canyon. Now having said that, I understand your position, good jobs although for a few. Lets not let this situation make us enemies as we both love hunting and the environment we live in. We are just on opposite sides of the fence. Happy hunting to you and yours. Bottom line first full sentence

Guess that fence didn't do such a good job after all......

Always gives me the creeps thinking that I hike back to camp, middle of the night knowing that those big cats are out there. Nice pics....

I'll take a brownie on the ground any day and any way....

I am in the middle of three online classes and I have to read a bunch of "educational blogging".......none of it as interesting as that thread sounds like. Course these days things seem a little testy on here and very little going on with the actual hunting and fishing........

That is awesome Pine Donkey....

Dang...where have i been....I hate it when I miss a barn burner.....

Great opportunity to get out of the house and have a great time for a good cause.

Bumping this up, thanks DILL!!!

Ok Lark... one more time... I did not design the bill, I knew of the concept as it was stated, I did not drop the bill and I never saw it before January 5th. I have expressed multiple times that the conservation groups who attend the AZSFWC meetings were briefed as was I on the bill. I am not on the board of the AZSFW. I still support the concept of the bill 300 tags for raffle, 50 for auction. I realize that it was not presented to the community as a whole and I will not comment on that but take it to the people who did. I am simply trying to inform and sort out the fiction that some of you were creating. That fiction was 1) The outfitters and guides were in on this... False 2) That there is no emergency... I explained that by having that term applied, it simply meant that if the bill had been approved, it would not have to wait for 90 days after sine die before anyone could get moving on it. 3) That the conservation groups are making millions on it False... all the current money goes to the department and the host group pays all expenses for the privilege of auctioning the tag 4) That no one knew about the bill. False. There were a few commissioners who were briefed on the concept as was I. All the members of the AZSFWC were given the same information. 5) I am trying to respond and have been accused of being numerous things, yet when I interject a little humor I am condescending. I have not labeled anyone a snake, a crooked politician, slimy etc... I apologize if you thought I was being condescending. I was frustrated at the fact that even though I have answered to the best of my abilities, I keep getting the same questions. I will be passing on all the thoughts and attitudes on Tuesday, as will Amanda. To focus on one of your false claims, reference #4 That no one knew about the bill. False. There were a few comissioners who were briefed on the concept as was I. Key terms being few and briefed and then the choice to not include any of the hunting population and run it through on emergency status. BPJ I have respect for fighting for a good cause, this doesn't seem to be one of them. And of all the complaints about it on this board you still seem to support the idea of using a bunch of big game tags that some of us still dream about. Antelope for example, dam they don't just give those things away.....wait, unless it is at a high dollar auction right? You want us to take a step back and try to see all the good.....maybe you need to take a step back and look from the prospective of a dad trying to raise kids and hoping to get a big game tag just through the lottery draw and hoping he can afford to just pay for the tags, license, bullets, gas, food and time off work to get those kids a lifetime hunting experience. But you are still ok with giving a few tags away to the highest bidder? My dad raised pigs and he said it smelled like money.........thats all this bill sounds like to me......stinky money.

Koury boys....you guys got it done, those are some lifetime dream bucks, congrats....

Not backdoored huh??? Wasn't even on the AZGF agenda prior too said vote yesterday?? "Chairman Woodhouse also made it clear during the meeting that neither the Arizona Game and Fish Commission nor the department were involved in the crafting of the bill, and this item has never been on a commission agenda."

Bonus, My questions must have been just sensless so go ahead and just answer the question posed by Lark in the first sentence of this post??

Got ready to leave Thursday morning and my 14 year old reminded me we needed to call the bear report for 27 before we left. Unit 27 CLOSED??? Are you kidding me??? Been waiting all year to go out deer/bear hunt combo and they female harvest of 11 has already been met?? How the heck did that happen? Did they lower the harvest limit after the fire??? Anybody have any insight on that?? Boy did that bum me out.

There are not many things that I read on a daily basis, but this site is one of them. I would not have known anything about this were it not for this site, I appreciate the information that is brought up here. Healthy discussion is important to try and resolve issues for sure. One thing that always worries me is reading information that comes from one side or the other. If you want to buy a Ford, talk to somebody that owns one but don't necessarily believe what Ford will tell you about their vehicle. How credible is the information and what lies behind or what isn't being said. Faith in anything politically motivated has disappeared from our society and rightfully so. Money seems to rule and usually has a string attached of some sort.

Bonus, one more I forgot, what is going to be the determining factor to as whether a kid qualifies for a free hunting or fishing liscense?

Bonuspoint couple of what I think are legit questions: Has the "qualifying Organization" already been determined? I mean, if I had an organization that "qualified" could they become the "underwiter" for this program? What plans would this organization have that could possible reliquish the death grip some have on access to public lands that hasn't already been pesued? What guarantees do we have that it won't be run like the Utah Fiasco??

Jay, I have alot of respect for the slow approach, find the facts, get to the bottom of the bill and weigh the pros and cons. Problem is when you get thrown a fastball how much time do you really have to analyze? The fact that this bill got put on a fast track with little to no warning to those whom it will affect throws a great big caution light upm maybe even a flashing red light. Why not slow the process down and give those affected time to digest the information? Maybe even give some input on what they would like to see? Two people on this site who are pretty well versed Tony and Bill seem to be pretty keen on the dos and don'ts and they seem skeptical as have others who frequent this site. I agree, lets take the time to find the facts, but what kind of time do we have??? Respectfully, Jeff

It always worries me when I have a document in front of me that requires a lawyer to interpret! Didn't the state clean out the game and fish funds a few years back??? What would keep them from getting their hands on the 20 million generated for wildlife in this case? Come on lawers, what are the pros and cons, to the average AZ hunter??

Oh my gosh....all these years and I missed that opportunity to teach you about the ducks?? I ain't gonna wait for lark on this one. Them are ducks Them are not Oh yes they are See them wings? Well I'll be! Them are ducks

I sure wish I could get some of those scraps for my yard, that stuff is expensive. When I went to buy some, everything I could afford looked like scrap to me. That is very true.....

OK maybe my ignorance shining through.....all the crap left behind that they couldn't or wouldn't use??? Most of us could make a really nice patio out of what they leave behind but when you are in the middle of the good stuff the scraps that get left behind are still pretty nice slabs. While teaching there in Ash Fork for 5 years, I got alot of pretty nice Flagstone and railroad ties from some of the locals who had connections. Made for some really nice landscaping materials. I apologize for misuse of the term tailings hope I didn't offend any of you miners that are directly impacted by mining and know what you are talking about

A little off subject but I know that mining of Flagstone in Unit 10 really put a hurt on one of my favorite hunting spots, made the roads more user friendly thus more hunters, pushed rocks and trees all over the place. But there are still some big mulies in there and they have found the water(rain,snow,etc) that now gets trapped in the tailings from this mining. Sometimes that can be good and sometimes that can be bad.