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Looks like fun .cool looking gun and the only black powder that scares me a little with the chance of several cylinders going off.my dad says just use Crisco and it will be fine .its always good to get those little early Christmas 🎁 at the door.

If they get pushed they always seem to be around the 229 and 83 junctions you can also try around 81a it loops to 83 and back to 229

Tend to see some down 81a and on the loop 81a to 83 and out 229 .good luck hunting

Anybody a member at Rio salado range by the lake ? How does the range membership work ? Is it good from they day you sign up for a year or is it calender year.with all the testing its getting expensive to keep paying 15 bucks to shoot and might be better to just become a member

8 and a half hrs at work today and 5 hrs under the jeep changing the oil pump .just need the 24 hrs for the glue to dry and tighten all the pan bolts and fill with oil .then pray it works good .I've got shooting to get back to

Only 48 and been doing it off and on more on for the last 6 years .I'm a machinist and they pay me stupid rediculus money in overtime and double time.its good for at least 50k extra a year .it started when the wife took off before her dad passed so she could care for him .hopefully she will go back to work soon I'd like a break 12 hrs 5 days a week and 9 on Sat and Sun plus all the house and car chores.

Gunbroker has a few at a more reasonable price point

There is also a few on gunbroker under shot gun parts but they don't list a specific modle just pics

It was the only one I could find listed and figured it might be worth a try .that's a pretty old gun .I've got a 16 gauge Mossberg 190 bolt shotgun that pre dates serial # I've not shot yet.ill keep looking there's bound to be one out there.

Buddy there is one on e bay $ 65 bucks and a few to ship .

Way cool .that's a way better design than the p.o.s. I bought on line .they used conduit for the frame.in a a frame style configuration and every time you hit the Damm plate it would swing and fall over .just about piss you off enough to make you want to shoot the shoot out of it and throw it in the trash.thanks for some ideas to make it better.

I was meaning work and the wife's to do list.I might be a little delirious I've been on 76 plus hour work week for about 6 months and just came in from being under my jeep to replace the oil pump.it sucks that all my hunting toys are so Damm expensive

I'd have to be one of the 40 people out there to see it happening .its not all about the kill sometimes it's about getting away from it all and just enjoying the people and the great things you see in the woods

They do generate a ton of money that's for sure.I agree its always good funnies to see the pics with all the different guides logos .I wish they would just do a random draw and give the tags to the az rez hunters that the animals belong to.they raise a ton of money on everything else.no raffles just a random draw 😁

The wife and I went to the elk banquet a few years back my hunting buddy is a member and the guy at the table bought the tag .money does buy just about everything it sucked to find out it was rigged and they already had agreed to a price

I hope you guys are right on the troll thing.

This is for all hunters ! The animals we hunt deserve the respect and admiration we should be giving them .take the time to make good shots and do the right thing for the animal .you would not want to be on the other end of your poor shot.they deserve better!!

Sounds like a lot of the basics were missed.1 never change anything before a hunt if you've already got it shooting.2 practice and practice .3 set limits.elk are big ruff animals if there hit bad they will usually stop and lay down to die if not pushed.your blood and arrow would tell you this biased on color and smell .elk hit bad need a lot of time 8 or more hours to die if you push them they move and you can get where there is no blood to trail.you owe it to the animal you hunt to learn all you can and put them down quickly. Poor hits and no blood requires grid search patterns and a day or 2 of time

No your limits and stick to them .I can't say I haven't lost an animal it happens to all hunters. But Damm 4 elk .I'm all about not bashing those for hunting with what's legal but you might need to change some things .I found that a rage in the shoulder on a deer is not a good thing and went to fixed blade and learned that it's important to make good shots no matter what your weapon of choice.For me it wasn't about yardage my shot was only 18 yds and the deer was broadside it was learning where to hit them.4 elk on any hunt is poor skills or just poor ethics and not caring about the game you hunt .it would get you kicked off the app to hunt in our group .

Sent u a pm .bass pro mesa had 2 after I got some Saturday

It's the explaining to the wife why you are hunting in your 75000 truck and need several rifles at 7 to 8 k per gun that make you a true hunter.a hunter of words to explain its not about need its about wants and still get away with it.

Do you think they had your scoped rifle your rangefinder your GPS ground blind and camo. Bows with sights crossbows or any other thing that you use to gain an advantage in mind .since the dawn of time the first hunters and all hunters use something to gain an advantage over what ever we hunt.I say if you cry about not fair get rid of all the stuff you use to hunt and then give it a try just you and the animal.that would be truly fair.no camo gun range finders bow and so on .just you and your prey.if you can't do that then you probably have no place to complain about others and what's fair.

We do not have a primitive weapon hunt .its a muzzleloader hunt .I don't wish to see any season end but I also don't like when people complain about fairness with out trying to do what they say is not fair.I don't care what your method may be if your proficient and can make a ethical kill .I can tell you first hand money is no substitute for time and skill .I'm new to long range shooting and I thought good gun good glass no problem.its way harder than that its load development and trigger control and then you have the environment .remember all we have as hunters gives us an advantage and still we come home empty

Technology has helped with good ethics and shot placement.your scoped rifle has modern tec.its scoped .skill is skill it takes a lot of time money and practice to utilize the tec and have the skills to shoot far the tv shows make it look easy .I can assure you a lot goes into it .every ounce of equipment we use gives us an advantage until you have an understanding of how it works and have tried to use it I don't think anyone should have a comment on what's fair.