AZtroutman

Who's the lucky one that got the 1 4a bull tag? Odds had to be similar to a sheep tag.

Jed with A3 is the best Rez guide there is, I'd give him a call.

They don't like guides so they took them

Points are updated now so if things are screwed up better give them a call.

Gonna need about 3 times more than that to have a chance.

At 26 average you had a 1.1% chance of drawing 5b. 5a even worse because there are only 7 tags so only 1 bonus pass tag. At 30 points you will be guaranteed whatever tag you want. Your brother at 23 points had a 1.0% chance of drawing and you both together at 26 had a 1.1% chance. I would tell your brother he is on his own because it's only hurting you and statistically not helping him at all.

Actually let me just disprove that rule #7 before people believe it. My niece applied for youth cow first choice and 23 late General bull second choice. A $50 charge hit on Thursday and she drew the youth tag.

That's a new rule or just a very vague one. My family has put kids in for youth and regular general tags for years and every time they draw the youth tag they pay the $50 tag fee.

"Everyone's been respectful except you" lol good try

Ground pounders

Same thing happened to my brother with two tags but as residents it was just the $135 instead of the $50.

You apparently need a vocab lesson. I'll help you out. Definition of Minion: A servile follower or subordinate of a person in power. Now let me add to that. Minions are a dime a dozen as long as they can wear the flat brim hat with the outfitter logo and post on their Instagram that they guide for said outfitter. Throw them a little cash and they'll do just about anything.

Must be an azgfd employee thing because I just looked at 25 apps from the past 5 years and they are all exactly correct with everyone's total points and group averages.

To make it easier for you Bob. Years past all apps I have ever seen have been right on. Including the "group average" that's "not really the group average"

Beat me to it. Do you work for the azgfd draw department or the azgfd PR department Bob?

Yeah I don't remember exactly but it was about 3 years ago. It just showed a message saying due to complications with the draw we will not be posting bonus point reports for the spring draw.

And we just ignore the group average of 12? With one guy with 8 and one guy with 0? And the one guy with 0 didn't even apply with the guy with 8? Looks fine to me!

They did this on a spring draw that got screwed up so I'm sure they'll do the same here.

Literally everyone that bought a point

Thinking he is a baby or a girl for wanting an equal chance at leftover tags is interesting.

I'd be asking for a tag. They'll just say oh no your points are fine it was just a glitch on the portal. No worries.

Not as bad as those screw ups but a family member got charged for 2 separate $135 charges and turns out his kids drew 2 youth cow tags that should have been $50 each. I think whoever was in charge finally said F it, ready or not, hit the button.

Just their twist to get people pissed off. Not a chance in helI that the diy guy will be hurt more than the outfitter. Let's go back 15 years ago and was that the case? No. So now it magically is the case? I was born at night but not last night. You think outfitters who buy pallets of cameras a year are the ones wanting it banned? Outfitters are the only ones that can afford to pay for those cameras and then pay their minions to check them constantly and tell them where the deer and elk are every second of every day. No doubt an outfitter will have more time to scout and know the area better (that's how it's always been) but no cameras for anyone levels the playing field just about as much as you could.

Seems to be the theme for most. Every year I hear someone say I have 15 points and can't draw a cow tag!