realhunter123

it will devastate the elk herd that lives there - yes more than likely it'll push the elk back towards the CORE ELK Management zone . the new regs that allow land owners to sell UNLIMITED tags outside the core is why I believe it necessary for those with public land tags to now take their last chance to harvest a big bull in this area since land owners can wipe them out all by themselves. as it is the land owner in the area has been a bit unfair and chased elk towards the private having hunters on their side of the fence. nothing we can do about them "running cattle" even though that's not at all what their doing. the idea of paying lets say $30,000 to hunt the elk is pitiful. if you have 30k to drop on an elk hunt go do it on a high fence , your already proving your not really the skilled individual to find it yourself and do it. after listening to the podcast and hearing the hunt for this guy all came down to a race to sell the tag and get a hunter onsite the fastest is lame. sell hunts for ungodly amounts your just selling your soul. trophy hunters is what gives hunters a bad name. we all know were doing conservation and blah blah blah but when your paying again say $30,000 for a single animal that's not conservation. that's a greedy land owner taking a big paycheck likely un taxed to let a guy walk on his property and shoot an elk prior to even rifle season just because he has the $$ to do it. again lame. this area used to be known for monster mulies and they've declinced over the last decade as elk moved in . let the elk get wiped out, and mulies return. the area is about as easy of an elk hunt as possible not steep, not rugged, just about at all times your within a mile or 2 of a road , mostly open. archery hunters have hit it harder than any other class. and that's why the bull lived as long as he did. open country archery is a challenge. by the time rifle came he was flirting with public private. best time to hunt this area is archery, and youth hunts. muzzle is still good but be ready to see a lot of elk moving towards private (winter grounds) . and rifle again is absolutely do-able just be ready that the elk will be more north than south. lastly - Nice name!

in the last 3 years out of the 8 years that I've watched this area its gone from 1-3 to 3-1 paid clients to DIY, in this spot. You are correct the knowledge of this getting out and more people in there is likely. I support DIY'ers competition in the field is what makes it fair chase. currently $$$$ is king in this area and its time to level the playing field.

I’d like to see a DIY rather than the highest bidder take the next toad out of these units. Anyone with a unit 23 NM elk tag. Here’s your lucky day wanna see monster bulls in a unit everyone calls a hard hunt. Want to see them off the highway? Instructions, waypoint, and areas of interest below. Most honest piece of honey hole elk country you’ll read today. The bull pictured, no joke was killed right by the highway. Everyday countless people drive by and think nothing of it. Right off highway 180w and the mangas road is where you’ll find these beasts. They spend a lot of time in both 24 and 23 bouncing in and out of private. Look on any imaging system and you see the depressions east of agua alto water tank and there erosion dams the elk go all about these low desert ridges from the Tyrone mine to blacksmith canyon. You’ll find them repeatedly in up the deep draw near Fleming canyon. The 24 side is hard to hunt them unless their in one of the checkerboard areas of public but the 23 side is easy. Park off the highway where the little piece of Forrest touches 180 or go around and walk in from the saddle rock side. Big bulls dominate this area. Here’s an onx way point to get you in the right area. 32.77611, -108.48253 You can go farther south and find elk all the way to edge of the mountains and desert but they get much harder to find. In mangas there’s a large herd/herds that live there and are easy to find. Go smash a toad.

I’d like to see a DIY rather than the highest bidder take the next toad out of these units. Anyone with a unit 23 NM elk tag. Here’s your lucky day wanna see monster bulls in a unit everyone calls a hard hunt. Want to see them off the highway? Instructions, waypoint, and areas of interest below. Most honest piece of honey hole elk country you’ll read today. The bull pictured, no joke was killed right by the highway. Everyday countless people drive by and think nothing of it. Right off highway 180w and the mangas road is where you’ll find these beasts. They spend a lot of time in both 24 and 23 bouncing in and out of private. Look on any imaging system and you see the depressions east of agua alto water tank and there erosion dams the elk go all about these low desert ridges from the Tyrone mine to blacksmith canyon. You’ll find them repeatedly in up the deep draw near Fleming canyon. The 24 side is hard to hunt them unless their in one of the checkerboard areas of public but the 23 side is easy. Park off the highway where the little piece of Forrest touches 180 or go around and walk in from the saddle rock side. Big bulls dominate this area. Here’s an onx way point to get you in the right area. 32.77611, -108.48253 You can go farther south and find elk all the way to edge of the mountains and desert but they get much harder to find. In mangas there’s a large herd/herds that live there and are easy to find. Go smash a toad.