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  1. 29 minutes ago, elkaholic said:

    Had an elk  hunt where this guy,   minister from Utah, swore up and down and   every which way . His ole hand sharpened zwicky broadheads would have a pass thru penatration.  Especislly if under 50 yrds.No matter where it hit. 

    Second day of the hunt he came back  to camp missing an arrow. When questioned he was a little hesitant, telling us , that he had a good hit on this monster bull. But couldnt find his arrow. It was a broadside at 40 ish yrds.  So out we go yo help track and recover his bull.

    Found the spot he shot from. ,the place the bull was standing . No arrow to be found with little sign of blood. Followed tracks best we could but marked a small puddle here and there.  By time it was dark , we basically called it off for the night. Marked the last sign

    Looked most next morning , we found his broken off arrow. About 24in long , no sign of blood on it! Later that night we found his bull.

    Chasing cows , bugling like crazy . Had a piece  of arrow sticking out his front shoulder by a dryed up blood spot!

    So much for his pass thru crap !

     

    Lots of  lost,, dead animals and a few still running around due to improper shot placement.

    Knowing yardage and having a good kill shot. Or DON'T SHOOT!!

    You can do everything right and still not fill a tag!

    Good luck and hunt smart !

    That's gotta hurt! I cant imagine being in that situation, but luckily you found the bull! Imma try and stay around 35 yards and see what type of broadhead I can shoot better! I found some at bass pro I am going to try!


  2. 22 minutes ago, Swivelhead said:

    Your equipment is up to the task.  Consider going to a bow shop and shooting a few arrows through their chrono.  Shoot a few with 100 gr. and 125 gr points to see how much velocity is lost with the heavier field points.  They might charge a small fee.  You will be able to calculate your KE.  Knowing what KE you & your rig are generating will allow you to choose a suitable broadhead.  I shoot fixed two blade heads and they are an excellent choice for ensuring penetration.  All things being equal, fixed two blade heads will not leave as much trailing blood as expandables or 3-4 blade heads.  On a solid hit, not a big deal but a marginal hit, it does become an issue.  Modern bows store a lot of energy, you may find that a two blade is not necessary. 

    I'll go try that out! Thank you


  3. 4 minutes ago, bojangles said:

    Don’t overthink things.  Shoot what poundage you are accurate with.  Accuracy trumps everything.  Find an elk, get under 50, wait for a good shot, send it.  
     

    also, practice with you broad heads. 
     

    what tag do you have?

    Unit 10 late archery. Looks like its gonna snow Monday! I am heading there on November 16th staying until the 20th. I have a deer hunt right after that!

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  4. 3 minutes ago, trphyhntr said:

    For every 1 bad story about mechanicals, I’ve heard 3 for G5’s. That broadhead is cursed or something 

    Yeah. I heard of 2 or 3 at least from the early season on these forums. And that is only this year! I dont want that to be me


  5. 3 hours ago, mattys281 said:

    What does your arrow weigh and what’s the setup chronograph at?  55# at 24” sounds very low energy, I’d personally be very concerned with penetration.  A lot of bulls have fallen to low energy bows before, but I think it requires some extra consideration.

    I’d be trying to get as close as possible and use a heavy arrow with a fixed blade 2 blade cut on contact head.  
     

    just my .02, good luck.

    I dont have a scale or a chrono unfortunately. That is why I am worried about my max and if I have to cut my max range down due to unknowns that is fine! I have had so many possible shots at deer I didnt take due to them being JUST too far! And I will see what I can find for a 2 blade! I usually use montech g5. But I sent that MULTIPLE people have shot and not recovered elk this year alone


  6. 1 hour ago, bojangles said:

    This is kind of a roll call for late archery elk hunters.  For guys like me who don't want to sit on the couch and would rather have any tag, than no tag.

     

    Here's my advice, and feel free to offer corrections and chime in with your tips and tricks as well.

     

    1) beware of swirling winds as the sun comes up.  This has blown many water hole sits for me.  Elk like to water at daybreak, and the winds seem to always shift right as their getting close.  

    2)Some cows who don't conceive, will be ready again the first week of this hunt.  Don't count out rutting activity.  You never know.  This is the chance for smaller bulls to have their shot, and also to get shot.

    3)  Consider shooting a spike on opening morning.  You may not get another chance.

    4)  practice.  You may have to take a long shot.  be prepared.  

    5)  it might be really cold or hot.  i don't step out of my truck without provisions to spend a blustery night.  

    That helps a ton thank you! I do have a question on an ethical kill range for a bull though. My bow Is 24 inch draw length this 55 pounds draw weight. I am hitting dimes and pennies at 40 yards no issue and hitting apples at 70! I use 100 grain tips with 340 arrows. Would 35 be an ABSOLUTE max? Or lower down to 25-30 range?


  7. 5 minutes ago, tomharveyb said:

    Ok so I’ll probably get beat up for this, but i’m a grown man who can take it.   Don’t get me wrong....I’m super happy when a kid is successful.    That being said, I hate the idea of a bunch of guys going out and covering every nook and cranny and calling in the “shooter” when they find their game.   To me, that’s not what it’s all about.   I hated the 20 man deer drives in Iowa where I grew up.   I hate it when the big shot guides do it.   Last week, it was just me and my grandson hunting, figuring out where the elk bed, where they feed, and getting a cow during the youth hunt as a result.   To each their own I guess.   My rant is over.

    Understandable. I hate it when it's done for business and when this guy will buy a governor's tag and also buy an army of guides. But hunting is also about making new friends and relationships. Taught the kid a great lesson and maybe now one day that kid will do the same!

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  8. 40 minutes ago, Riesop said:

    Believe it or not the rut is supposedly triggered by the amount of sunlight in the day, that's what starts the estrus cycle in a cow elk.  So if that's true then the rut should start around the same time every year no matter the temperature.  Like another one posted, I think when it's hot they just do all their rutting at night so it makes it seem like they aren't rutting when we go out during the day.

    That makes sense. I couldn't understand why it would kick off of the weather had not yet changed


  9. 20 minutes ago, trphyhntr said:

    its possible to have rutting action then. i wouldnt base my hunt around it but i wouldnt surprised. let out a bugle, you might be surprised. 

    Sounds good! I am not expecting anything like that but itd make things a lot more exciting! 


  10. Okay so I have been taking trips up towards William's in unit 10 every two weeks and have seen elk everytime except for the last time. I heard no bugles maybe one chuckle (could've been a hunter). I am going up again in 2 days to see what is happening in between hunts and if nothing is bugling then what should I expect? I have an archery tag for bull in mid November so would the rut be possibly going on by then with temps still being almost 90 in the area I have been scouting? Or would hunting pressure through the month of october cause more silence? Or not even a rut at all? Is it good if it hasnt started yet for me?

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