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  1. 1 hour ago, NOTAGS said:

    Here’s a dumb question if you will.  If I put a trail camera out on water in the forest in July , I am not hunting. Possibly littering by the USNFS rules, but I would not be engaged in hunting at that point .   Why TF should GF have anything to do with it UNTIL hunting season?  Are they going to  be enforcing Forest Service rules now? If so start writing people up for driving on closed roads, having fires during fire closures, littering etc.

    thats like them citing me for having Powerbait in my tackle box at Lee’s Ferry,   Possession of the item is not a crime, but how or when you use it is. Last I looked, trail cameras are legal to own in America .

    This is best comment I've seen on this entire subject! THANK YOU


  2. 2 hours ago, 654321 said:

    I suggest you get go fund money for the retainment of a lawyer.  Then run your cameras for FUN, now when you are helping a kid and he harvests his deer and the WM asks did you use trail cams to aid in the taking of this animal answer no.  It now falls on the burden of the state.  If the state can prove you had a trail camera and they prove that trail camera had that particular deer on it then you might be in trouble, on the other hand what if you never had a single picture of that particular deer?  What if your trail cameras last picture of that deer was from 3 months ago and you can prove that you harvested that deer 2 miles from that location?  I'm sure a good lawyer could probably make a good case that the trail camera didn't aid in the take of that deer.  Let me ask you this? Did you have any trail cam pictures of that deer you recently helped Uggredbilly take?   

    No. It was the first time we had seen that deer. The only photos that cam caught of that deer was us dragging him around


  3. 29 minutes ago, 654321 said:

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    Your reading comprehension must be way better than mine because no where here do I see the total ban of trail cameras or the ban of trail cameras for the  freedom Loving Arizona recreational wildlife enthusiasts.  I do however see a ban on the use of trail cameras for the take or in the aiding of take of wildlife.  If you choose to run 500 trail cameras all summer long with your friends and family because your a wildlife enthusiast have at it, just don't use those cameras for the take of wildlife.  As a freedom loving American make a choice are my cameras for fun or profit.

     

     

     

    The question would be how would a warden determine if they are being used for hunting or rec though? How is that enforceable unless it is clearly being checked by a hunter during a season


  4. 5 minutes ago, knothead said:

    I am confused.  Is this fundraising effort and hiring an attorney in favor of:

    A. No restrictions at all and leave things as they are.

    B. A limited camera season where cameras are not legal during hunting seasons.

    C. Something needs to be done to regulate the abuse but still allow cameras during all times of the year.

    It is to disband the complete ban. They voted to move forward on the option of a COMPLETE ban. Not the season


  5. 4 minutes ago, az300wby said:

    I agree with you on a trail cam season but Not allowed during hunting season.  
     

    anyone have a pic of water tanks on the strip having 13+ cameras on it?  

    I was at 12AW and there was quite a bit at one tank I saw. I think a season would be great. I wanna get into cameras as a hobby. I saw what all comes across them on the trip and I think it is really neat

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  6. Just now, Saguaro said:

    It might help to define what recreational use is?  Do all of those guides install them because of outdoor recreation enthusiasm or is there another purpose?  Could they be looking for big bucks and how often and which places they water?    That’s what I do with cameras.  I shoot many different guns recreationally. Some of those guns will never see a big game or varmint hunt.  It’s pretty easy to see the recreation there, it’s more difficult to see the recreation in cameras.  I guess I could see it if you had cameras in a unit that you didn’t have a connection to a big game hunt with friends or family.  

    A season would help with that as most hunting seasons will come across in November. I think ending the season July 31st will even the playing field a bit more

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  7. I am on the side of using cameras if you guys cannot tell but what if there was a license add-on and a camera limit per licensed person? Like for example 100$ for a year permit for camera use and a limit of 20 cams? They could enforce that easily if you were required to leave a license number or copy on your camera. Similar to how you have to leave your license on a crawfish trap if you use it over night. Overtime wardens over the state can report each camera and if someone goes over that camera limit "red flag" and they have a way to contact them by seeing a license on the cam


  8. 1 minute ago, northAZarcher said:

    So what if a kid, or an adult, what to put cameras out to try and find bigfoot?  Bigfoot isn't in the regulations as a game animal!

    Is it legal? Or can they stop anyone and everyone no matter the reason?

    That would be my biggest question on a total ban. It says in the new rule they cant be used for hunting purposes or aiding in a hunt. So I have no idea how they would force it


  9. 2 minutes ago, Coffeeman said:

    Just my 2 cents... I went with a ruger m77 because of control feed in .270wsm topped it off with a leupold 4.5-14x40. There hasn’t been a round it hasn’t liked (does love federal 140 grain accubonds). Put it together to be an all around Arizona rifle. Has never let me down.

    I'll look into that too! Thank you man!

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  10. 20 minutes ago, Outdoor Writer said:

    Cartridges of the World is a great suggestion. I had one of the originals circa 1960s, which I just sold recently.

    And the part highlighted in red above still applies, despite all the new "you gotta have one" cartridges that have come out after the .30-06 was first introduced more than a century ago. I haven't checked recently, but I will ventuire a guess that the array of .30 caliber bullets available for the venerable 'aught six' still greatly outnumbers any other caliber. Red &black plaid wool shirts also still work. 😎

    Now for the disclaimer: over 60 years and countless rifles of varied cartridges, I've owned only one '06 -- a Remington 742 that my grandfather used. I never hunted with it, however. My go-to gun since 1965 has been my M70, .264 WM, which I still own. The only other in my closet now is a custom M700 from Robar that I acquired when I went to Africa in 2003 because I thought I would need it. But, out of 12 critters,  I used it only for a zebra and probably didn't need to do that either.

    The red flannel is essential man! I'll have to check those guns out! Thank you!


  11. 6 minutes ago, NOTAGS said:

    Josh, dont overthink it, your 243 is a great rifle, if you feel the need for a slightly larger caliber, the 308 you seem to be leaning towards is a great cartridge, both for long range shooting and KE when you need it.   The military used it for a reason.  Ammo is easy to find, and lots of bullet choices.  A quality bullet is key, and  most modern ammo manufacturers have a good selection.  Find the action you like,  buy the rifle, find the ammo the rifle likes, and stick with it.  I have too many rifles, some inherited, and some cause I got caught up in the magnum  frenzy.  (did I really say I have too many rifles?).  Get your rifle to group with the ammo, maybe do a trigger job and put an upgraded stock on it to suck up some recoil, or put a brake on it. Buy a quality scope , perhaps one you can put an adjustable turret set to the ballistics of your round or learn the MOA principal. You don't need a Howitzer for Arizona game, including bison.  Bullet construction and shot placement is key. There are new cartridges popping up every month that look great ballistic wise, but unless they become widely accepted, finding a box of cartridges in Bodunk USA when you forget to pack extra  cartridges is a challenge.  The meat and potatoes rounds that our fathers and grandfathers used have put more animals to rest than the new  kids on the block will ever kill.

    Sounds good man! Thank you! I found a really cool HOWA .308 I like for about 500$ brand new. Which is not the crazy good rifle some people get but it will do what I'd like it to do though!


  12. 4 minutes ago, CouesFanatic said:

    So as long as we are courteous and don't check cams early in the day we can put as many cams out as we want and it makes no difference? This is exactly why they are going to pass the camera ban. Guides have no clue that they are ruining it for the rest of us.

    What are cams ruining? So what if there is a ton? Is it okay if a normal person has just as many cameras?


  13. 10 minutes ago, SirRoyal said:

    Excuse me If I offended your obsession CouesFrantic. But no one is paying you to think what you think you know about guides. Your jealousy wreaks and has given you a byass against guides that is uncalled for. Kinda like Hillary throwing us all in the Deplorable basket. You must be a left wing nut job! Where I hunted this year individuals cameras out numbered guides cams 5 to 1 . 

    Most guides are courteous and dont check a cam till midday unlike individuals who dont think of others and they check them at all times. 

    This is very true. Each time all our guides went out to check cams they left from 12-130ish. Also being in a high demand unit the most cams I saw at a trick tank were 4 or 5. Also the spot we sat on had only our 1 cam and then one other person's camera and they checked it in the middle of the day too at like 1 PM. Maybe there is a FEW rotten apples. But from my experience everyone was respecting each other!


  14. 10 minutes ago, PRDATR said:

    Billy,

    I'm not going to read all the comments. You need more than one rifle, sure you can "get by" with a 30.06 with factory loads from 55 grains (in a sabot) to 125gr always up to 220gr. Keep the 243 and get another rifle, or two.

    I have most of the usual calibers up to and including 7Mag, 45-70 and 375 Winchester and H&H Magnum. I hate to jump on the 6.5 CM bandwagon but it is complimented with a lot of great bullets and has light recoil. No problem buying one where it can be under 8 pounds with a scope. Personally I prefer a rifle a pound or more less than that.  I'm in the east valley so let me know if you want to shoot any of the rounds mentioned, cept the 6.5 as I don't have one of those. It probably just kicks not much more than a 243.

    Do you have any interest in reloading?

     

    I have wanted to learn how too! I am not ready money wise to get into due to moving out of my parents house this summer! But I am going to start this next up comming summer!


  15. 33 minutes ago, CatfishKev said:

    Now that the 6.5 is crazy popular ammo manufacturers have really made it an all around caliber.  That puts it right next to the 7-08 which is a great all around caliber. You can go from 130 to 147 grain bullets and the 147 match that hornady makes are great performers.   Last 2 hunts we were on the 147 put an almost 2" exit hole on my daughter's muley.  My sons cow had a nice entrance and we could feel the bullet under the hide on the opposite side. That means it spent all of its energy in the boiler room where You want it. She probably went less the 20 yards.  

    Your size frame I would recommend the 6.5.  And as far as the best value for the money spent there's probably not a better shooting 6.5 then the ruger American predator.  It's gonna be the best in its class for value and comes pre threaded for a brake or silencer.  

    If you must have a heavier caliber my next favorite would be a 7 mag. 

    I'll check that out!

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