UggRedBilly

Dude its sarcasm. I cleared it up and you're still acting like it's not. You think I dont listen to regs and the azgfd about why they do what they do?! Yeah sure. Because I was born yesturday. I just found out today that there was a draw too! Did you ever hear about that? OH BY THE WAY ITS SARCASM IF YOU DIDNT KNOW!

But it is...how should it be typed then? English professor?

It depends on animal needs. Clearly this year they didnt range far from their normal watering holes. But in others they do. It depends the early season for elk has a mate as number 1 priority. Water at 2. Food at 3 and probably shelter at 4. But in the late seasons it changes from Shelter to food or water then a mate which usually never happens. Its depends on the animals needs. So that is invalid too. It can be changed year by year and is variable

Its sarcasm. Get a brain

Well the thing with a season is that by the time the hunt comes around the deer are clearly behaving differently. From the 1 month span between August and september the elk behavior changes from the rut. So they'll be in different spots. So you dont have really any true clue on where the animals are from the time the camera season ends to when your hunt would begin. Unless of course you are doing the early OTC

You are taking bits and pieces of what I'm saying. You're not reading it all. Freaking talking to a brick wall

I am aware of that! Again if you actually read my entire messages youd see that. Keep preaching to the choir my friend!

Yeah I agree with the part of the fact people rely on just cameras. Which is why you ban them for the season and dont use them for hunting. But you can use them in the off season for a hobby to watch antler growth

The issue is there is outfitters who purchases a ton of cameras and put them out at every water source or hotspot during a hunt then send camera checkers out to see what's going on. You get an entire unitz worth of scouting done within 24 hours pretty much. Not fair at all! Also AGAIN I said MOST the issues lie north of the big ditch. Did I say that or did I not? Key word MOST. Maybe you can see that better in all caps. Get some glasses you clearly cant read that well

Well it depends. How many on a water hole? Or ownership? How many units are they across?

Because is happens all the time. You on Facebook? Or any social media? People I follow always have photos of cams being stolen. Cant imagine that being just libs. They dont like being out in remote areas. Itll chip their nails

No no no. Dont twist my words. Read again. Cams arent an issue. Surveillance across a whole unit is. There is a fine difference

I swear on God and everything I love I dont steal. Especially out in the field. We all share the same hobby and passion for hunting. Why ruin it for others

Personally I dont have an issue with cams at all. But from what I can tell from others, the main issue is when there is surveillance across the entire unit almost at all water sources just for 1 group of hunters or a few outfitters. That obviously isn't fair chase! I think that the adverage joe with a few cams isnt the issue at all. It clearly is those outfitters who try and cover the whole unit with cams. I am also aware there is trophy opportunities in every unit. I seen some nice ones near phoenix! But by the time the season comes around those deer can be in a completely different spot. Which is why it is good. I think the cameras can benefit more than hurt if they are used as a season. Like monitoring antler growth, sometimes predator rates in areas! But I believe a season is the best way to fix that abuse of cameras. I would be lying if I said they weren't abused and I'd be lying if I said I dont understand why you guys were against it

I'm saying most the problems are caused uo there. A huge majority of them. I've been to a whole lotta units and never seen issues other than up in those premium units for elk or deer. Scouting in unit 10 was a mess too. Also no I am saying people are stealing cameras. It's just sarcasm. A lot of what I am saying is. Even the seasons comment I first mentioned. I mean a season is nice from February through july. Because not as much of the popular bug game is hunted. I think the only exception is turkey javi and bear right? But I would really love a season because cameras are really cool! Like just for pics of animals. I just got one of a moutain lion dude! Really cool! I'll share them soon if you're curious. I dont wanna use them as a hunting tool. I used it for my bab deer this year to locate animals. But I'm not sure the locating part is really for me. I enjoy more of e scouting and putting boots on the ground! But the images and just being able to see them is just really really neat to me. That's why the mean a lot to me

Didnt your parents teach you to use your words?

Well if an abundance of cameras being out during deer and elk seasons isnt the issue what is? Because all I saw was you guys bashing outfitters who had all these cameras for these deer and elk units during season all these stories on how they block off areas and there is fighting over water holes. Take away cams during season and it's a mystery and gamble for everyone. By the time most these seasons come around the deer and elk will have moved from their summer range anyways. But what's the issue? Is your favorite squirrel hunting spot being taken over by outfitters and their darn cameras? Did you loose your chance on the HUUGGEEE 250 pound javi? Yeah I highly doubt it. A season is a great compromise and easily enforceable. You see the camera take it. That simple. A lotta folks already take them anyways! I bet some of you are pros!

Well the issues lie with the premium elk units and any unit north of the big ditch. It's not an issue as much in most others. I dont think people are posting cameras in the "premium" javelina unit with the prime genetics. That isnt the issue. Most of it lies within elk, deer and maybe bighorn in a few cases

If you see any camera out of season take it down. It's not like they use seasons to determine when game should be taken. Or is that too hard to enforce as well?

I love the idea of a season! Easy to enforce and great for hobbies!

Was if for or against cams? Because if it was against them they dont seem to be responding to anyone. Which is messed up. Everyone's input matters so they make the best choice

Is there anyway I can change my application? I only did the bonus point but now I kinda wanna attempt to get a hunt with these conditions

I just got this email from the public comment period. Has anyone else's been reviewed? Or is this just a message everyone gets?

Dang that's a nice buck man! Keep it up!

It is just an estimate. Usually hunt odds dont change super drastically from year to year unless it's when a newer hunt gets noticed. It does help a lot though! Especially when it comes to an APP strategy! Just paints a picture on what you ca roughly expect! They are still extremely accurate though! That .2% of a chance difference from each site doesnt matter a whole ton anyways. Your name is still put into the hat anyways!