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OK Willie, I undestand what you are saying but you have not addressed what I am wrong about? I simply stated that censorship applies to public speach/communication not private institutions. (that is correct, not wrong) It is not much different than if you invite someone into your house. If you don't like what they are saying or doing, you can ask them to quit or leave because it is YOUR house. No censorship, simply you deciding what you want to occur in your house. Same principle applies here. That's all I was trying to say. S.

Great clarification! I've got two slumberjacks plus one of the Disc-o-bunks when I want to sleep four. It does get crowded...... I suppose that at some point, no matter how big/small the stove is it just wouldn't be practical for me to squeeze that plus 3-4 sleepers in. I notice that Cabela's has the Sheep Herder stoves, and it looks like one of them is a little smaller. Wonder how that would work?? http://www.cabelas.com/product/Sheepherders-Alaskan-and-Packer-Stoves/744761.uts?destination=%2Fcatalog%2Fproduct.jsp%3FproductId%3D716016&categoryIds=104791680%7C104757480%7C104627880%7C&WTz_l=RI%3BIK-519238 Either way, good luck on selling this stove! S.

Outstanding, Andy!!! Awesome! Thanks for sharing with the site! S.

Censorship doesn't apply at all in this case. This is not a public forum. This is a private forum which belongs to Amanda that we all had to sign-up for in order to post. When we sign-up to post, we agree to the rules/guidelines. It's not about fear of speaking the truth, 'right wing' views, 'left wing' views, or anything else like that. It's called 'topic moderation' and virtually any/all internet forums have it. Simple as that. S.

Saw this link and was interested until you mentioned that it was too big for your Alaknak 12x12. That is the exact tent that I have, and I was thinking of purchasing a wood stove for it. Are you going to get a new stove? Have you decided which size/model you are going to go with? Again, I would be curious as I am thinking of purchasing one for my tent as well. S. PS: Good luck selling this stove! Looks like a good deal on a nice stove for someone!

Looks like a great time in the woods!! Outstanding pics! Thanks for sharing with the site! S.

VERY, VERY, AWESOME!!! Thanks for sharing with the site! S.

That's funny! I thought you were going to say it was a neighbor practicing for the archery season! S.

So cool! Hunting with the kids is absolultely the BEST!!! Thanks for sharing with the site! S.

Bitter? No, not at all. The third pic down actually looks like it could be your typical Southern AZ wash! Wonder if he's local.... S.

A good friend took an aluminum down with with noting but an oar, his electronic caller, and a rifle. That river took him into some country nobody had predator hunted for quite a spell. He shot 2 bobcats and a number of foxes on that river trip. He said a few times a dead tree had fallen over parts of the river and he had to push the boat down so it would pass under the timber. Says it took waaay longer than he expected. The Gila can be fun! I grew-up in Kearny, and we used to tube from there to Kelvin all the time. As an adult I've been back to canoe it a few times. I've pretty much canoed the entire stretch from above Winkleman all the way down to the coke ovens (Cochran) at various times. Took a shotgun and jump-shot ducks one fall. Haven't done it in years though...... As teens we were warned of the dangers of tubing on the river because it used to have LOTS of heavy overhanging brush all along the way and a couple of barbed wire fences. As an adult on my canoe I was much more cautious (especially with the barbed wire). If anyone doses the Gila, beware of those things. The occasional large flood will scour some of the brush out for a season or two...... S.

Uh..... What is the 'normal' you're referring to? 10 cents a round with a two box limit is normal? If that was what you were referring to, then unfortunately I think you might be right. These prices (and for now, availability) ARE the new normal, IMO. S. PS: Thanks for posting azhuntnut! Hopefully some forum members who want some ammo can get over their and get some.

Woody, Bill and the crew REALLY know how to do this stuff! Their passion for Arizona youth hunting is amazing! I'm glad that you and Paul were able to attend and get him certified! Kudos to Youth Outdoors Unlimited! S.

Pays to have a VERY smart scientist in the family! Outstanding news that Paul is recovering, Amanda! S.

Awesome! Have you spent time in unit 23? It's got some amazing country! Congrats on the tag and good luck on your preparation and hunt! S.

Follow the link that I posted above. It will take you to the G&F page that has the calendar. On the calendar, you will find the info on the Jr. camp, along with a link to a map! S.

Christian: I'm excited for any youngster that has this tag! All three of my kids (and some of their friends) killed their first deer on the Jr. hunt on the Kiabab! As you've figured-out, there are LOTS of deer there! No hunt is a guarentee though, especially if it's your first time hunting. Here is some advice; I would recommend you check the G&F site and get tuned-in to the Jr. Camp that is always hosted . http://www.azgfd.gov/h_f/MentoredHuntingCamps.shtml Especially as a new hunter, they can & will provide you will lots of support/advice (plus usually some decent burgers/dogs)! Here is some information on that camp; Kaibab Deer Junior’s Base Camp When: Oct 9 – 12, 2014 Where: North Rim Grand Canyon (map) Description: Kaibab deer hunting information and assistance, biology and habits, some food, campfire. • Location: North Rim Grand Canyon, Unit 12A, SR22 & FR429 • Hosted by: Buckskin Chapter Arizona Deer Association • Information: Rich Leightner, releightner@ thebigpond.com, (928) 645-9669 As has been mentioned the deer can and will be found all over the Kiabab, especially in early October. We've had the most luck in the mid-altitudes in October (Ponderosa/Oak type of elevation....). As for camping areas, we've always enjoyed camping along the 462 road. There are many 'two tracks' that head to the West off of the 462 (753, 773, 275, 462A) that run on the tops of ridges with great deer hunting in the canyons and along the ridges all along the way. That is our favorite area and has never let us down! Get yourself a Kiabab National Forest map, if you don't already have one. Sincere good luck to you on your first hunt! Be sure to tell us a story when you return! S.

The case was not decided by a judge. It was decided by a jury. Chris Kyle told lies about Jesse Ventura (and published them in his book). Ventura claimed that those lies impacted his income and personal life. Jury agreed and awarded him the judgement. I agree that it seems lame from our perspective that Ventura 'went after' Kyle's estate. Seems to me like he could have just looked to try to get an apology or retraction out of the situation, as opposed to the financial judgement. For me, the bottom line is this; SUCKS that Chris Kyle told lies about Ventura in his book. SUCKS that Kyle's widow/children will be impacted due to the estate having to pay. BTW, I agree with your comment on politicians! Desertbull, that is a VERY intersting point regarding 9/11 orchestration! S. PS: ctafoya: It is OK to say something bad about anyone you want. It is not OK to publish lies that defame someone.

The topic has been debated several times before here....... Here are some links. Looks like the first link regarding genetics has a post from Jim has a couple of sub-links with actual study data. Good luck digging through all of it! S. http://www.coueswhitetail.com/forums/topic/44722-genetics-survey-on-az-whitetail/?hl=fantail&do=findComment&comment=420034 http://www.coueswhitetail.com/forums/topic/42093-what-do-do-you-think/?hl=fantail&do=findComment&comment=392430 http://www.coueswhitetail.com/forums/topic/23805-fantail-whitetail-or-all-coues/?hl=fantail http://www.coueswhitetail.com/forums/topic/15042-carmen-mountain-whitetail/?hl=fantail&do=findComment&comment=164636 http://www.coueswhitetail.com/forums/topic/11298-while-we-are-on-the-subject-mexican-coues/?hl=fantail&do=findComment&comment=126425

Prayers & peace for Amanda and Paul! S.

You guys are hilarious! For the last time, NO ONE IS GETTING SCAMMED HERE! The only reason I won't let it go is because folks insist that I'm getting scammed and/or screwed! There was an ad posted and I decided to purchase. Nothing more, nothing less. No snobbery, no flaunting money, no nothing. It simply bugged me that folks were slamming the seller (and then me, kind of) for doing this transaction. Righteous intent or not, it did not come across that way. I obviously hate scammers too! S. PS: If you think I'm a snob with a lot of money, then you have obviously not seen the 20 year old pick-up I drive or the place I call home. My children and my friends are what I value. NOT money. Classy move to bring my 'mommy' into it though.

I understand what you're saying rugarmack...... Simple economics, I get it. The fact is though that currently the 'after market' market price is what it is (back to economics; supply/demand). You hit on the key point for me at Walmart, which is the IF part of 'if you can get it....'. Each time I go to Walmart I wander by the ammo counter to check and I have not happened to time it right to where they actually have any .22 ammo available. I'm getting tired of waiting until my kids want to go plinking to try to find ammo, only to run all over town for a couple of $8 boxes of 50 rounds. I thought it would be nice to have a couple of bricks on hand for next time, and the price/convenience was good for me. Simple as that. Casey, I kind of get your point regarding guys like me being the ones that are helping drive the 'after market' price up by being willing to pay $50 but I still don't agree with your assessment of whether I got screwed or not. Simple fact is, I'm willing to pay the market (after market) price for the ammo and the convenience of having it delivered to me. Easy for me to afford, and now the kids and I can go plinking any time we want in the near future without running around to hunt for .22 ammo. Not sure why your comments regarding 'giving' me some is even applicable here. Seems like that would be more appropriate if I was begging for ammo as opposed to being willing to purchase it. If your offer is sincere though, I'd be happy to take any surplus you want to give me off your hands as well. (Actually, if you have some bulk .22 ammo you want to get rid of I would be happy to pay the after market price to you too. You could help fund your elk hunt. That IS a sincere offer!) Adicted, I agree the shortage and prices suck. Used to be able to pick-up all the .22 ammo you wanted for $8.99 per brick. Those good ol' days are clearly long gone. S.

All over the internet it is selling for that price-range or higher ($50 for a brick..... if you can even get it.....). Am I missing something? (That is a serious question BTW, because I would love to pay less for .22 ammo and have it delivered to me here at my office for that p.) I've looked on-line and looked locally here in Phx. Either way, I agreed to the price and will honor the deal. Just curious for next time at this point.... S. PS: I'm not desperate Bonecollector, I just thought it looked like a deal that was on par with what I was seeing on the internet and was easy for me to get here at my office. When you aquire and sell antlers to someone who is willing to purchase them at the price you set, do you feel like you 'screwed' them? Free market.....

Excellent that the Y.O.U. folks are once again doing this camp! They do an awesome job!!! I won't be there, but all three of my kids have gone through hunter safety with Woody, Bill, Dewane, and the guys. They are all great guys and run a top notch camp! Good luck! S.

It is, in fact 'spf'. I am the buyer, and will meet him on Weds morning before work to do the deal. I have three kids that love to shoot our .22s and I'm sure they will enjoy! LJS, I'm not sure why you think this should be on backpage, gunbroker or anywhere else. Our huning site has a Classified Ads section. Why wouldn't he post it here? As for your insinuation that he is gouging an honest person looking to have fun shooting, huh? What is he doing wrong? He posted ammo for sale and I agreed to the price. Unfortunately, I don't have time to run around to try to find ammo at Walmart or Dicks (or gun shows or anywhere else.....) before they sell-out each week. The last time I purchased .22 ammo I was only able to purchase two 50 round boxes and they were $8 bucks each. I saw this ad and I work in N. Scottsdale so it is convenient for me. No gouging.... Just a couple of guys doing a deal for ammo. (BTW, I placed an order for 'out of stock' .22 ammo on midway.com a couple of months ago....... Still waiting for the e-mail that says it is in stock and will be shipped.) Casey, I'm not sure why you feel bad for me or why you feel that I bought 'crap'. Save your sympathy...... Frankly, I'm feeling a bit bad for you that you feel the need to jump-in and talk crap and make assumptions about a situation that you have no idea of. Don't you have anything better to do? Cheer-up and try not to be so negative guys! The sun is up and we are all alive! Nobody got hurt on this deal, and once again this great site was able to help a couple of guys connect. S.