stanley

With the non-res on the app, maybe the non resident cap had been met by the time you were pulled? What Casey said, put the non resident on a separate app if you want to draw. Yup, that could be the reason as well.... I feel suspect that it was the non-resident cap, because this hunt is really NOT on that many radar screens (hence the perennial under subscription....). Would be very surprised if it was due to non-res cap, but stranger things have happened I suppose. We have put in together many times for this same hunt, and have always been drawn. Since there was one left over and three of us on the application, I just chalked it up to extreme draw odds bad luck. In the old days maybe they would have given us a mulligan, but in the age of computers I suppose it is what it is. Oh well..... Spilled milk and a mute point for this year. NBD... Will definitely consider the separate applications for next year.

Too funny...... I have been putting-in for 36C early hunt for second choice for a few years now. It has always been kind of the "100% go to" draw for a unit that I have become quite familiar with over the years. (As a side note, BIG thanks to Redrabbit for giving me some tips many many years ago on that unit! Doug is a generous and cool dude!!) Anyway, myself, son and hunting buddy from Utah were NOT DRAWN this year. I was dumbfounded, and jokingly told them that maybe it was because there were three of us on the application and possibly not that many tags left by the time our app was pulled. Well what do you know, that hunt is listed as have one (1) left over tag!! Seriously??? So it looks like that is what happened! 1 tag left over, but 3 of us were on the application. Wow... Oh well, I'll see if I can snag my son one of the leftovers available in some other units.... S. PS: Can't complain because my two college age kids were drawn for the December 14-31 hunt! VERY excited to be with them on that one!!

All three of my kids killed their first deer on the Kiabab Jr. hunt (A couple of them had success more than once up there....). Hands down, some of my very favorite hunting memories!! It's the best!!! Congrats on the tags! Enjoy!! S.

I started two weeks ago! 🤣 http://www.coueswhitetail.com/forums/topic/80275-early-e-scouting-3c-fool-hollow-late-late-cow/?do=findComment&comment=800267

Unlikely that the deer will have moved much, IMO. I would focus on the mid-zone (like 1/2 way between the very top and the bottom). Ponderosa, oak, etc... LOVE those Jr. hunts!!!!!! Good luck! S.

I'll take it! Call or text me? 602-399-4769 I'll send a PM as well. Thanks! Stan

+1 on your points. Good summary perspective, which I share. (Funny regarding the star struck guys. I asked my 23 year old son if he wanted a picture with him, and he kind of looked at me like I was an odd-ball and said "Ummm..... I'll pass on that, thanks..." ) Regarding the pre-show Q&A session, I was hoping for dialogue on any/all of three topics: Raffle tags, trail cams, and long-range shooting.... I got a chance to ask the first question, but then the session went in a different direction. Some guy was asking girlfriend/wife advice? S.

Well, looks like my oldest son and I have Kiabab Fall turkey tags, and my two younger college kids have December 36C coues tags!!!! Unless there are more charges coming, I suppose I shot craps on deer. Fingers crossed though.... S.

Yes, they are!!!!!! I've got a $50 & $90 charges pending. (Need to go back through all the apps I submitted for myself, friends, and my kids to try to figure out what that means. ) S.

Yup, there you go. Missed that.... Sounds like GAME ON!! S.

I've got a stupid question...... If they were charging cards today, wouldn't the 'update your cc info' e-mail have been sent? Ummm..... I thought they sent that out for the last draw. I have yet to receive an e-mail like that. ???? S.

It was brought up in a question by a member of the audience during the pre-show "VIP ticket" session. Based upon the answers they gave, it was clear that they were not up to speed on this issue and what has transpired here in AZ about it over the past few months.I thought he said he sees both sides of it and doesn't have an opinion on raffle tags. "They create a huge amount of money that is definitely traceable to the areas of work that they are allocated to but I understand the guys that say they remove some opportunities". I kinda think that was itI don't think he differentiated between the current raffle/auction tags and the proposed ones, because I got the feeling he wasn't aware of the recent proposals. I gathered this largely because he talked about the funds going to habitat and not education. Gotcha I could agree with that. Oh yeah and Karl sucks! Welp, if anyone cares, that was me that asked the first question regarding raffle tags during the early Q&A. (Suppose I should have worn a cw.com hat or something to give the site a little PR.) I think he kind of gave a 'non answer'. Maybe I could have posed the question a little directly. I was there with my son, and after the show we agreed that it was honestly a little boring for most of it. Like has been mentioned, I really wish he would have talked about some meatier stuff. Ha! Get it? He seemed pretty cool, kind of like I expected. Just wish the topics would have been a little deeper. My boy DID score one of those hats they were tossing out at the end! S.

Had this on my mind as a topic for debate/input since last deer season. Finally making time on a quiet Friday morning to post it up..... Had an experience last hunting season that made me re-think what I assumed to be true about hiking-in to a hunting area. My preferred method over the past several season has been to find an area fairly far from any roads (3-5 miles) and hike-in before the first crack of light to hunt it. I had sort of always been aware of any disturbance I make hiking in, and kind of assumed that any deer in the immediate area of my hiking route to be spooked-off, and hence would of course focus my initial glassing on areas outside of or beyond my hiking route. Last year my buds and I were focusing on a particular drainage. I missed a nice buck on day two (my typical buck fever - rushed shot), and we decided to head back into the general area once again on day 3. One of my buddies was a 1/4 mile or so ahead of a me on the hike in, and was able to get this picture with his iPhone. Basically, he was hiking-up the trail getting close to our glassing spot (on a wide open hillside with just grass & some scrubby mesquite...) and he catches something in his peripheral vision from his headlamp. He looks to his left, and standing there about 10 feet off the trail is the buck that I had missed the day before! He was able to get his iPhone out and snap a quick pic before it wandered-off..... So basically, I just wanted to share this experience. For now on, I will NOT necessarily assume that all the deer have been spooked away by my hiking-in via headlamp. Conclusion for me is that they apparently feel VERY safe when nocturnal! Any other experience or thoughts on this topic to share?? Hunt on!!!!! S. Obviously very poor lighting. Approx 10-15 feet away with iPhone flash....

Also, one more thing to note: For those who have the 'VIP' tickets, originally it indicated that the additional time with Steve would be after the show. I got an e-mail from Tempe Improv a couple of days ago that said the Meet/Greet time will now be BEFORE the show, starting at 5:30. Assuming anyone who purchased the VIP tickets got the same e-mail I did, but FYI none the less. S.

Hmmm...... Who else is going to the show tomorrow? (My son and I will be there.) Possibly a good local topic to throw out there for discussion. Along with the other obvious local topic. S.

+1 While I TOTALLY support protecting artifacts and such, I feel like those were definitely the good ol' days!!!!!

Sure it's not a cobra???

Thanks a bunch, both of you!!!! Truly appreciate it! Lee, I'll get in touch soon! S.

Man, just seeing this post brings back some GREAT memories! Growing-up in Keany, our cross country coach would take us on 10K runs all over..... A couple of times a year he would load-up the school van with a few of us and go on a 'high altitude training day' to Seneca! We would sit on those rocks down by the dam and absolutely slay those little trout stockers on z-rays, Mepps, and cheese! Coach Rubalcaba was a cool dude! S.

Not Kiabab, and he showed it off all over the internet.

+1 I found myself in this exact same situation. When I was filling-out the application for deer on-line, the system was 'smart enough' to catch that my license would be expired prior to the actual draw date, so it presented the option for me to purchase a new license right at that point. All worked fine. S.

If you cant set aside $300 a year I would advise you not to waste your money on a raffle ticket. This argument isnt very strong.If you can't set aside 300k for an auction tag, I advise you not to waste your money on a stamp.

Who is the artist? Any examples of other work done by him/her?

VERY AWESOME!!!!!!

Lookout, Bob! I heard a conservative meteorologist trying to sound smart too! For the record, I'm always skeptical when the monsoon hype starts getting going every summer. Especially in mid-June!