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Seems like it's pretty much easy to tell about the Gambels. Good winter/spring rain = good bird hunting in the fall. For Mearns, thinking it could be tough since I think they depend much more on the summer rains. Fingers crossed on that..... S.

As usual, Flatlander chimes-in with solid facts. G&F has definitely done plenty over the past decade or so with hunt dates, stratification, etc. But clearly, the overall tag numbers remain relatively flat. I always find it interesting when folks point to "social media" as one of the culprits (often spinning it in a negative way), literally while posting on a social media site. 😂 In all seriousness though, for sure there is MUCH more propagation of information out there now due to the internet. Also with electronic application process's, it is of course much easier for folks to apply in multiple states to cast a wider net for tags. Suppose that's just the reality of the world today and in the future. Can't stop 'progress'.... 🙄

Ah, duh..... Of course. Guess I could have figured that based on the thread topic/title. Definitely a downward trend.

Hey desertmafia21, what do those numbers represent? Curious.....

Application numbers are going up. I don't think there were a couple of hundred last year. Seemed much lower, as I remember trying to get my son one. Seems to me like it could just be more applications, plus possibly more folks picking 36B as 2nd (or even 3rd) choice to try to lock-in a tag as opposed to gambling on left overs. Doesn't seem to "fishy" to me, unless I'm missing something.....

Awesome!! Such beautiful country!!! Cool too, that you get to spend the time with the little ones. S.

Or is it multiple applicants on one application (Like in my case; 4 applicants on a single application....)???

My crew and I got tag numbers 26, 27, 28, and 29 for our unit. Guess this would have been the year to go for a tougher to draw tag! 🤣

I deleted that spam thread and user account earlier today. FYI.....

Thanks to all those who reported. The posts AND member account have been deleted.

Yup, every once in a while this happens; Someone posts something that Amanda has previously made clear she doesn't want, so it gets moved. As far as 'censorship' goes, the bottom line is this is a private website and the owner can do anything with the content they please (Including censoring posts.....). People sometimes get their feelings hurt or get upset when their content is moved, but oh well, you can't please everyone. She simply wants content posted in the section that most closely fits the topic. Easy peasy! S.

Been a long tine since I had camped on the reservation, so I didn’t realize prices were up. Several buddies had permits for Christmas Tree, and wanted to camp close so we camped on the res. I went and fished Big Lake, then hiked the East Baldy trail while they spent the day at Christmas Tree. Beautiful up there!! Pretty darn green for late June this year. Was still snow up in the trail. Where ever you end up, enjoy!! 😉 S.

Not sure about Sunrise specifically. I camped on the WM reservation last weekend though, and it was $9 per vehicle to camp per day. S.

Hard to say..... It can depend on how your card company process's charges. I think though, that the vast majority of companies/banks will reflect at least a 'pending' charge right away. 🙁 Keep your fingers crossed!!!!!

Deer and turkey. 👊

Cool! If you put in on-line, you should be able to log in and see who was on the application(s).

Phone number posted on that link. (480-221-0570) I tried it and it went to a voice mail box for 'Desert Bull Services'...... Possibly leave a message there?

Google is your friend. 😉 Check this? Looks like there is a phone number https://m.facebook.com/tasteslikevictoryseasoning/

That is FUNNY!!! The internet has a very long memory..... 😂🤣

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I would look forward to a report if you go. Sorry, I don't have info on the seven crossings. Though, I was at one of the crossings on the lower section of the Black River last week. River was running at a healthy flow, but not too extraordinarily high. I did not cross in my Tacoma, but there were fairly fresh tracks indicating that others had done so. Good luck! S.

There is another thread regarding access to wildlife refuges, and the point of public land access through private was raised. Wondering what folks thoughts on that topic are. I've always come down fairly firmly on the side of private land owners on this topic. If I owned a piece of property, I would like to think that I an admit or restrict as I see fit on that land. I know though, that this opinion is definitely not share across the board. So? For or against the right of private land owners restricting access to public land? S.

As planned, I took yesterday off work and spent the day up on the Black river. Fishing wasn't epic, but any time with my two sons is! I think we managed 50 or so in between us in about 6 hours of fishing. We caught mainly small mouth, but also caught a couple of rainbows and browns. Water level was medium-high (not super high, just a nice healthy flow....), and was clear. My two standard go to lures when I fish there are small chartreuse grubs (like crappie jig sized...), and black rooster tails. We caught them on both yesterday. Have fun! S.

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AWESOME!!!!! Thanks for sharing the story with the site! S.