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Now now..... Obviously just because something isn't spelled-out doesn't mean it didn't happen (Like, I get that there is a chance....). But honestly though, with that logic then ANYTHING 'could' happen to be true. Again, basically feeds the fake-news machine. BTW, well played on the "C".

I know it's a real tweet. Quite a stretch to go from a tweet regarding what is essential vs. non-essential, to "Now she's banning US flags!". Classic fake-news scenario, IMO.....

I'm going to assume that you posted this as a joke?? 🤣😂🤣

I'm not a fire manager or forester, so guess I don't know much. That being said though, it seems to me like it's not a bad thing to error on the side of caution. I'll gladly give-up a little time in the woods if it means less of a chance for some bonehead to start a potentially catastrophic fire.

That can be a great hunt!!! Put some time in before (if possible) and during the hunt, and you should have fun! Good luck! S.

Well I suppose I would say that each of the situations you pointed out above should be looked at individually for evidence of negligence and/or malice. If there is an indication of negligence in the eyes of the law when looking at each of those situations, then yes, I guess charges might be warranted. No doubt the whole thing stinks to high heaven.

Ugh..... SO sad of a situation. I cannot imagine what the parents have been living with and going through every day since. For me though, in addition to intent I think that there is a consideration negligence. Whether malice existed or not, there can still be negligence. I think it is quite obvious that the parents did not and would not 'intend' to hurt or kill their kids, but they absolutely crossed the creek with intent (not by accident). The law may find that by intentionally crossing the creek under those conditions (ignoring barriers - however common that may or may not be by locals at that location), that they were in fact negligent in their actions resulting in the death of those children. However crappy it is for the parents, I feel like the process should be followed through our legal/justice system to determine that. I am not considering this as 'additional punishment' for the parents, but rather our system of laws and justice dealing with the situation as we would any other to come to a legal conclusion.

Anyone else get an e-mail from AZSFW out of the blue yesterday??? The headline was advertising a fund raising raffle for a Ford, but the link took me to their website. Of course I took the opportunity to poke around a little. Saw lots of old familiar names on the Board of Directors list. Also it looked like the org is being fairly active, at least from the looks of their newsletter postings & info. Curious if anyone here is an active member?? Also I'm curious about the 'organization' or 'affiliate' memberships. I noticed that MANY local AZ organizations are listed, and each gets a single vote on issues, etc.. (And each has a single person listed representing that org for AZSFW. Lots of familiar names there.....) Curious how those organizations are coordinating & communicating with their members when it comes to taking positions that AZSFW is pursuing. Anyway, just caught my attention..... Something different to think about during these crazy times. Oh, and BTW, I sent them a note to please take me off their spam/mailing list. S.

Years ago we had a couple of GREAT days at River (and Bunch) throwing medium-small brown trout Rapalas. 😉 Love the spring fishing opportunities in the White Mountains!!

Yup!! A wise man once told me, "Son, if you're looking for long term, it's natural resources. Limited supply and EVERYBODY needs it...."! Of course he was speaking of copper specifically at the time, but I never forgot that sentiment. (Just wish I would have actually "listened" to what I was hearing and stacked-up more gold over the years.... LOL)

And then people complaining about the complaint.... 🤣

Well, I guess I would respond in two ways. 1) The original poster I was responding to said; "Years ago Bill Gates was giving shots to kids and not telling them it was to sterilize them." That statement is is a rumor that has been proven false. 2) Regarding the tetanus vaccine, a little internet research will show that there were accusations from Catholic Bishops in Kenya that the vaccine was 'tainted', not spiked. In addition, it was never proven by anyone outside of their circle or supporters. No malice by Gates Foundation in either of these cases.

Right up there with Bill Gates giving shots to kids to sterilize them..... 🤣

That is SUPER awesome!!!!! My old man was a mining engineer/geologist (worked at the Ray copper pit for decades....). No quail hunting trip was ever complete without a few words & commentary from him regarding the geological make-up of the surrounding earth/rock/ridges/etc. that we were hunting. Miss that.... Anyway, when he retired he spent some time researching and exploring old mining claims in AZ and NV. He would come home from his expeditions with a truck load of canvas ore bags from his various finds. Some "panned-out" and some didn't. Didn't matter, because he was mainly just exploring and playing around out of curiosity. Thanks for the thread/posts though, guys. Brings back some good memories. S.

Sucks for sure, but absolutely LOVE the pics! 🙏

Ya, all these pics and memes are pretty good. Tons of them floating around the internet. I'm going to assume most people realize that the 'social distancing' thing is not about someone being scared to go out, though. Its being pushed because it is a proven method of slowing the spread of a virus WAY down. I find irony in this pic/words, because the overall goal of social distancing is the 'greater good' (Similar to some of the sentiment I take from this pic..... ). The point of the social distancing is to arrest the spread of the virus, and hence hopefully save the lives of many of the high-risk people who are going to be in a VERY bad way if they get it. S.

Assuming anyone who has hunted New Mexico is likely on their e-mail list??? I got this today, and found it interesting. Get ready for more junk mail??? (Also, an another more extreme view might be the possible increased risk of being targeted by anti-hunters......) Not sure what AZ does..... S. New Mexico Department of Game and Fish Public contact, Information Center: (888) 248-6866 Media contact, Tristanna Bickford: (505) 476-8027 tristanna.bickford@state.nm.us FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE, MARCH 19, 2020: Courts Order Department To Release Customer Names, Email, Addresses Today SANTA FE – A First Judicial District Court judge has ordered the New Mexico Department of Game and Fish to turn over the names and addresses of all successful big-game applicants for the years 2015 through April 23, 2019 to Los Alamos County resident James Whitehead. Additionally, the New Mexico Court of Appeals ordered the New Mexico Department of Game and Fish to turn over the email addresses of individuals who applied for state hunting licenses for the years 2015 through 2016 to former Land Commissioner Aubrey Dunn. Both decisions conclude that information collected from the public in connection with the administration of its public duties falls within the meaning of public records and are subject to disclosure. In 2017, Dunn requested the names and email addresses of more than 300,000 applicants for New Mexico hunting licenses. Whitehead requested the detailed draw results, names and addresses of all successful applicants, units applied for and units drawn. The Department provided names to Dunn, but denied the additional requests by both parties. As a result, both parties filed lawsuits pursuant to the state Inspection of Public Records Act (IPRA). “The Department argued against the release, but ultimately lost,” said Director Michael Sloane. “We value the privacy of our customers’ personal information but recognize that is the courts' interpretation of the current IPRA law.” The Department will release the requested information today and wants to make their customers aware. Individuals who believe they are being harassed by solicitors or similar as a result of this release should call toll-free (844) 255-9210 or file a complaint online at www.nmag.gov/file-a-complaint.aspx. "

Good link/info. 9 elevation feet difference from last year is a LOT of water!!!!👊

Lots of "experts" out there giving opinions and speculating. I was talking to a friend who is a physician (No, BTW, I don't necessarily think that makes him an expert.....). He was basically speculating on the very worse-case scenario in which a large percentage of the US population became infected. Statistically, given the current mortality rate, well over 1MM people could die from it in the US. Obviously, this is why it is so important to not ignore the warnings about close contact and social situations that could help the spread. I agree with a pragmatic viewpoint though, holding out confidence in our country as a whole, and that it will be contained/dealt-with before it gets anywhere near that bad. 🙏

Well, I guess I'm feeling pretty good about that case of MREs I impulse-bought off this site a while back. 🤣

Holy BIG TENTS!!! 😲 That is a good deal on a VERY big and high quality tent!!! I have had the 12X12 version for many years, and love it. Bump for a great big tent!

Never had a problem with Cox. Lightning fast internet at 1000Mbps.

Crazy how quickly all the hysteria is unfolding. Daughter took off to Spain & Ireland with a few friends for spring break trip last Friday and we were joking about her traveling given all that was going on, with absolutely NO thought that it would hype-up so quickly. When Trump announced to the world the European travel ban last night (without making it immediately clear that it did NOT apply to US citizens), it set off panic with a couple of the other parents. Two of them actually bought their daughters one way tickets out of Dublin yesterday in a panic. CRAZY! Greta ended-up flying to London this morning, and will come home from there as planned this Saturday. I'm generally a fairly practical and calm dude, but I'll admit that I will be a little on edge until she texts me from her seat on that BA flight Saturday. Will feel good to know she's wheels-up and out of there. S.

He just did via this thread. I've taken care of his account. S.

Ummm........ Do you REALLY believe that about Bill Gates??? 😳 A few key strokes on the keyboard to view various articles/info on that (and the context) easily reveals the conspiracy theory behind it. God bless the internet! Too funny.... 😂