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Not sure if I would shoot or not. Thinking not, but suppose it would depend on how close the dogs were (a mile vs. a few hundred yards.... spur of the moment judgement call...). That being said, the thing that caught my attention on this topic was that when I saw the title I was immediately taken back to the mid-late 70s when I took hunter ed as an 11 year old. Does anyone remember the film they used to show called "Shoot / Don't Shoot"? It was a pretty cool deal where they showed several different sort of real life scenarios and then had the class make a determination whether it would be OK/safe to shoot or not in that given situation. I still remember a couple of the scenarios all these years later. Sorry for the hijack....

The problem with that argument is that the account wasn't technically 'hacked'. This is a private site. The users don't "own" the accounts, the site owner does. Legally, the site owner can do what ever he/she chooses to an account since he/she owns it.

Ya, it's a drag. The current incarnation of this outfit has been blocked/flagged. Unfortunately, there is no way to permanently ban this type of thing because IP addresses are dynamic and continually changing. Thanks to those who sent alert notes. My normal routine is to login pretty early each morning, but I was busy with 'day job' stuff and was off my normal. S.

Ya, well at least you left the TC in front of the pig for scale. 👍 (Of course, it also looks like a long-gun in the pic! 😂)

54 pounds??? More like 354 pounds!! 😳 🤣 JK.... AWESOME!! S.

Me: Elk: 2 points. Early archery bull 1st, general rifle bull 2nd. My daughter and two sons: 3 points each. General rifle bull 1st and 2nd (separate apps). Good luck, all!!!

12A is the only unit with antlerless tags. All three of my kids killed their first deer on that hunt. It is an OUTSTANDING hunt!!!! 😉👍🏻

Money buys happiness?? 🙄

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/kobe-bryant-helicopter-crash-victims-155328169.html Here's an article that gives the bios of those lost in the crash. Sad sad stuff for all of the families.

So what you're saying is, is that it's just like every other unit in the state..... 😂

That's pretty awesome to hear it is that high. Would be great to get one or two more winter or spring storms to pile-on the snow melt for this spring!

Ya, I drew that hunt 4 years ago with only 3 points. From my point of view, after the "bonus pass", it seems the point pool is so diluted that it is really just a crap-shoot. There is always hope for us 2-3 bonus-pointers!.

Thanks for checking. Just sent you a message in your inbox. S.

Outstanding, Tyler! I admire the father-son time that the two of you get!! Family and the outdoors! 👍 😍 S.

My buddy (who lobbies here in the state) said it was being introduced based on lobbying by Coconino County ranchers. No names given, so can't confirm/verify, but he's pretty connected in to the legislative scene here in the state, and I suspect he knows what he's talking about....

Point taken, Pine Donkey. I don't think it's these poorly written 'sweeping' bills that we need to worry about because they get so much hype that they will never pass. I'm more worried about the small (sometimes seemingly innocuous) changes that get passed little by little, that over time collectively make a significant impact in the long-run. S.

For me, practically speaking, there is just no way this bill will pass for public lands (state trust, BLM, FS). Whether the rancher has ownership rights to the actual water hole or not is irrelevant when it comes to 'setting up a blind' within 100 yards of said water hole. All of this is just hype and chatter surrounding a poorly written bill, IMO. Sometimes our law makers don't appear to be the sharpest folks out there, but come on. NO WAY will this will happen on public land. S.

No he didn't say why. I'm not even sure he knows specifically why..... (our exchange was via e-mail, not verbally). From him when I sent him a note asking who was lobbying for it; "It is dead already or will be amended to apply only to private water holes. It came from ranchers in Coconino County. It will die.....".

One of my good friends & hunting buddies is a lobbyist with visibility to this bill (No, he is NOT lobbying on behalf of it.). He said it is basically already dead in it's current form. S.

I need to take an out-of-towner on a quick snow view/play trip tomorrow. I know the high country got anywhere from a dusting to a few inches over the past 12-24 hours, so thinking the timing should be good. That being said, I live in south Scottsdale/Old Town area, so a quick run up to Payson/Forest Lakes/Rim/Strawberry would be MUCH easier and preferred over the run up I-17 to Flagstaff. Can anyone provide a quick report on the rim around Payson? Enough there for viewing and a little play? Don't even need enough to sled. Just horse around a little..... Info greatly appreciated!!! S. PS: For the record, I would MUCH prefer to head to the desert and chaise Gambels, but oh well.....

Yup. On it. S.

The ironic part of that meme is that the term "alternative facts" was first used by Trump's own Kellyanne Conway while defending some Sean Spicer comments. Ugh...... Media.

Gambels quail. Never mind that for now, though. Stay after those muleys!!

Yup! Seriously, clarktar!!!! Awesome on you for getting after it in the desert! Great addition to the site. (Did you bring a shotgun to chase Gambels with???) Good luck! S.