Mr September

Actually, the word "javelina" has nothing to do with javelins or spears, or even Mexicans. It stems from the Spanish word for the European wild boar, "jabali." The Spanish conquistadores who first encountered the collared peccary in the New World long before there was a Mexico added "ina" to indicate they reminded them of small wild boars. English-speakers often have trouble with Spanish words that contain a B and tend to pronounce them as if the B was a V, which resulted in a "jabalina" becoming known as a "javelina." Bill Quimby This is correct^^^ Good to see you approve. I am sure Bill will sleep better tonight knowing he got a nod from the great Czar of The Peccaries. Hey Gut Shooter! We're trying to have a civilization over here! If you have nothing productive to add, go waste some more meat/life and post about it on social media... Ya TB.

Quite frankly, I haven't read Gerry's book in so many years I can't begin to count them. lf he discussed the origin of the name "javelina" in his book, I forgot about it and I apologize for not giving him credit. It was published long before the garbage about collared peccaries being descended from rodents or named for the long sharp teeth on young peccaries started making the rounds. What happened, was a light bulb went off when I hunted red stag and wild boar on a friend's estate in Spain's Toledo Mountains in 1984, and the farm worker assigned to help me started talking about "jabalis" when we found where a group of boars had been rooting. I was pleased to see Gerry again last year at the funeral of a mutual friend. He along with Tice Supplee are THE undisputed experts on the javelina in Arizona. Bill Quimby Agreed. Not familiar with Tice. Does he have any writing published on Javelina? Tice is the woman who early in her career worked with Gerry Day when he was studying javelinas. She advanced up the game department's chain of command until she was the game branch chief. She may have gone higher in the agency, but I retired from the newspaper about then and lost track of her. She was extremely knowledgeable about Arizona's wildlife and especially good at soothing disgruntled hunters when she testified at commission meetings. Bill Quimby Very cool. But no writing then I gather? Another good informative read on the Peccary is the Lyle K Sowls, although not nearly as much fun it has a load of science and biology. A lot of it is just quoting others research though. Gerald Day included heavily.

The reason for Science often flip flopping. Each time evidence says otherwise they flip. Its to be expected. Corinthians 1:19 For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the wise; the intelligence of the intelligent I will frustrate." Genesis 1:24 And God said, "Let the land produce living creatures according to their kinds: the livestock, the creatures that move along the ground, and the wild animals, each according to its kind." And it was so. In the mid 19th century Darwin developed the theory of evolution. So whatever the Javelina is he has always been. Only since he has been a "Javelina"...

I still prefer their scientific designation as either: Cactus Bounders, or the less known Prickle Pigs...

Quite frankly, I haven't read Gerry's book in so many years I can't begin to count them. lf he discussed the origin of the name "javelina" in his book, I forgot about it and I apologize for not giving him credit. It was published long before the garbage about collared peccaries being descended from rodents or named for the long sharp teeth on young peccaries started making the rounds. What happened, was a light bulb went off when I hunted red stag and wild boar on a friend's estate in Spain's Toledo Mountains in 1984, and the farm worker assigned to help me started talking about "jabalis" when we found where a group of boars had been rooting. I was pleased to see Gerry again last year at the funeral of a mutual friend. He along with Tice Supplee are THE undisputed experts on the javelina in Arizona. Bill Quimby Agreed. Not familiar with Tice. Does he have any writing published on Javelina?

Here's a good Boar from last year

Here's a nice Boar checking the wind at 14 yards

Bill may be reading Gerald Day perhaps???

Actually, the word "javelina" has nothing to do with javelins or spears, or even Mexicans. It stems from the Spanish word for the European wild boar, "jabali." The Spanish conquistadores who first encountered the collared peccary in the New World long before there was a Mexico added "ina" to indicate they reminded them of small wild boars. English-speakers often have trouble with Spanish words that contain a B and tend to pronounce them as if the B was a V, which resulted in a "jabalina" becoming known as a "javelina." Bill Quimby This is correct^^^

They are essentially a "New World Pig". Remember science is all over the place on this stuff. At one point they were considered related to old world pigs. So what changed? Not the Javelina or the pigs. It's always the so called "science" that changes. And Tayassuidae do in fact have Suidae in their family tree along with the Hippopotamus. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it's probably at the very least SOME KIND OF DUCK...

. While we’re at can we stop calling them pigs of any kind. They are not pigs, they are not related to pigs. They are javelina. The funny thing is that, as a wildlife biologist who specializes in evolution and taxonomy, I know exactly what javelina are related to and even I've learned to go with the flow and call them pigs...sometimes even referring to them as stink pigs. I've even got my kids calling them pigs, although they absolutely know the reality. No matter what I call them, they are among my favorite things to hunt and they are great eating. But then I once ate a grasshopper on a dare and a cold pot roast MRE for breakfast, so there's that... I've even started saying Cooooze, but that's a whole other debate and thread. They are "New World Pigs" as opposed to "Old World Pigs". You look at the snout and the teeth and common sense tells you they are some kind of pig. Pigs of a different feather, but pigs none the less regardless of what the books say. Just like a Bear is essentially a pig, or an Elk is essentially a Bovine. Missing one dew claw, and lacking a gal bladder does not disqualify you from being essentially a "PIG"... JMO

So did you see any?

And people wonder why hunters are not looked at with respect and admiration like they once were. The sad thing is, it's no surprise, and not even uncommon in today's so called "hunting culture".

Love that photo on the sneak

Both of these are correct^^^ ____ You can't tell me that between three guys you can't handle eleven to twelve pounds of clean boned meat a piece. And if you can't: Shoot the amount that you can!

We use clear plastic garbage bags, but same net result

So how did it go?

Very good guns. Under rated in my opinion

This is a Big Boar from a couple years ago. We hunt mountain pigs, In very broken country. I put the sneak on this guys herd in their bed right above the edge of a big rocky ledge near the top of huge mountain peak. I observed and videoed them bedded for about 30 minutes from 19 yards, and then one of them casually fed my way off and on and ended up less than 3 yards and figured out something wasn't right with my bush. He started woofing and the big Boar came to investigate. I let him have the Rage Ext. at around 18 yards and he crashed in sight. We don't shoot beyond 20 on Javelina, and we only shoot the Boars.

I agree. That is actually why we were moving him without even gutting was to get him to a suitable spot with some good surfaces to sit quarters and then bone. I'm guessing we only moved him a 1,000 yards or less, but found great spot in the bottom of a shady rocky wash. Had him quartered and boned in bags in less than 45 minutes, and then straight on ice in the cooler. Great meat!

It is pretty impressive for $750

17 yards- 10 yard recovery

I could not agree more...^^^

Any of you guys looked at the new Ruger 1911 frame 10? I think I'm getting one. A lot of gun for the money. IMO

What exactly did you have done? I'm scheduled for mine on the 28th... They didn't even detach the Achilles but I had a mass on it so they had to cut on it/debridement also bone spur on heal had to be removed. The Achilles issue is just side effect from my strange arthritis I guess. Problem is each time I'm recovering from 1 of these im scheduling for the next :/ uncontrollable inflammation causes tendon/soft tissue abnormalities and none spurring. Guess the good part is I rarely get sick. L.O.L. unless I take the meds that are supposed to help the 1st part of this but they never do they just cause illness. Chemo type drugs, shots, infusions etc. All quite common in Gulf War Sommalia guys. dang that is rough. I am having partial knee replacement...