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Bullet construction/minimum energy/ killing effectiveness is a whole different discussion. I hold heretical views on that and will save that for later. Except, i shoot critters through the lungs behind the shoulder with a 180 VLD. The furthest one went was 75 yards of a dozen, from Coues to Elk. Here is a table for a 175 interlock at a generous 3150. It’s worse than the 150 VLD.

Love the Applied Ballistics books and their solver. Not sure what you mean exactly, or where you think it is basically true. There are a couple assumptions I made, so maybe that is the thing. Maybe an example would help. Anyhow, here is one that I put together. Consider a 180 VLD at 3050 fps and a 150 VLD at 3250 same caliber, .284. The 180 has terminal velocity high enough to kill out to 1000 and the 150 only out to 750. Drop out to 1000 is the same but only has enough velocity out to 750 to kill. Time of flight is within a few hundredths of a second. Wind is the separator. Wind drift at 750 yards is 6 inches more with the 150 in a 10 mph wind. At 1000, wind drift is 15 inches more. That’s my opinion on why velocity is king out to 500 but after that BC starts to matter for wind and drop.

Weatherby magnums are generally at the highest velocity for each caliber bullet their cartridges for factory stuff. But, they aren’t designed for the high ballistic coefficient bulllets, except the new 6.5/300 or whatever it’s called. Velocity alone is important out to about 500, after that the ballistic coefficient starts to matter more as the drag on the bullet slows it down. A flat base 60 grain .243 bullet will get to 500 yards faster than a 105 grain .243 bullet, but the 105 grain bullet is more aerodynamic so ultimately there is a point at which the 60 grain slows down but the 105 keeps going because of the difference in drag. For long range, heavier high ballistic coefficient bullets for caliber are better. Similarly, if you shoot a 140 .308 bullet at the same velocity as a 140 .264 bullet, the .264 bullet has a higher ballistic coefficient because it is longer. The .308 will have higher velocity but it also slows down faster. If you want to shoot long range, the best cartridges are ones that are designed to shoot a high BC bullet. High BC bullets require a faster twist barrel, typically. So, a .260 REM, though very similar to 6.5 Creedmoor, typically doesn’t have the barrel twist or factory loaded ammo for high BC bullets. Long Range is what has spawned many newer cartridges that are factory designed for the bullets and improvements in case and powder design. Those are the newer cartridges like 6 creedmoor, 6.5 creedmoor, 6.5 PRC, 300 PRC, the Noslers, 6.8 Western, 280 AI, etc.

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I have 1500 for sale, same lot. $55 per 100. East Valley Chandler, Gilbert, and Mesa.

Only $450 left

I'll do venmo, pm your venmo or give me your text number.

I will take it if it is in good condition.

Here's some shooting with a lightweight bag on a tripod.

In my humble opinion, the tripod is the single most valuable tool after a rangefinder. With my rifle and tripod, we've taken animals out to 730 yards. I can get as steady as prone with my tripod, and it reduces the number of positions I have to practice with. Here's video of the first animal I shot off the tripod. I was in Colorado at the sniper training detachment just weeks before and was shown the position I use.

I've got two boxes. PM sent with my cell number.

Colt .38 Special. Picked this up on a whim but never bought ammo and never shot it. Just sits there. Came from an old cop, this was his carry gun given the wear. Finish is nice, and gun looks good except the worn spots. I have a duty holster for it. Would rather spend the money on buying bullets I will shoot. $400 OBO East Valley

Howa 6mm creedmoor (yes, 6mm not 6.5) barreled action with factory barrel cut to 20" by Bring the Edge gunsmith out of NM, muzzle threads and clean two stage trigger. The action has about 150 rounds from a custom barrel and the factory barrel is new and unfired. Includes 5/8 muzzle thread adapter and 20 moa scope rail. Action looks like you would expect. $475 (over $250 in upgrades alone) Black MDT HS3 chassis, MDT grip and a 10 round plastic MDT AICS mags. Chassis has 150 rounds on it. Makes it a great hunting rifle. Add the AR buttstock to finish it off. $425 (over $600 new) Or, MDT LSS compact chassis and MDT grip with mag. Makes a great lightweight hunting combo. Add a lightweight buttstock and have a compact deer killer. $425 (over $600 new) Buying the barreled action and chassis includes an opportunity to buy Sig copper hunting ammo and Hornady ammo. Will be priced lower than retail. I also have a few nice AR buttstocks I can add in for a complete package. $50 to $300. Two port Area 419 self timing brake. $120 Three port PVA self timing brake. $100 Radial brake. $40 or free if I keep the threaded adapter. Second 20" threaded 6mm cm factory barrel same as the first and also headspaces on the action. Will sell a new 6/6.5 cm go gauge if you want it with the barrel for what it cost me. $195 Pics wouldn't upload, can text them if you PM your cell.

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I have a new 8 pounder that I won't be needing. Got it from Bruno's a while back and have $350 into it. East Valley Chandler Gilbert area

Heading up to the Kaibab in 5 days! Pretty stoked. I have 9 straight days blocked out and ready for the blind, books and movies too. More long weekends if needed later. First hunt looking for penises to confirm sex on an animal... Forecast has no rain in the 10 day, so hope that keeps them moving out of the park. Not using Jacoby, but will coordinate some to keep hunting good for all. I Have a buddy helping who has been part of half a dozen or more bison hunts. Hoping his luck rubs off, he shot his cow in 1.5 days in the blind. PM me if you will be up there. I intend to document and video my adventure, will share the good stuff. Here's to a buffalo on the ground.

What he said... except I don't recommend them past 500. But, that will get close enough on most animals.

Very cool. I have a bubba sporterized Eddystone from my granddaddy.

I will trade 1000 41 for 1000 400

"one million dollars" Good luck, I sure hope we find these things soon...

gonna get more responses in the classified section

January 30, a few of us have already planned to meet up to shoot rocks and lay claim to bragging rights. Anyone that beats me at whatever games we make up will get a shooting bag or something. For anyone interested, I'll have my long range gear, shooting bags, etc. I am more than willing to share what I know as long as others do the same. I'm not an expert, but I am no slouch either. Mainly, you'll just get regurgitation of what I learned on the shooting range with a couple military sniper instructors and what I have picked up from good shooters at the PRS matches in Phoenix. Even if you just want to come and hang out, I'll have a rifle you can shoot a mag or two. I can guarantee if you can press a trigger without disturbing the rifle, you will make hits as far as we have steel. If you shoot my ammo, a contribution would be appreciated. Time is 8:00 am until we are done. Specific location is to be determined, but probably on the South side of the Valley. Probably between Maricopa and Gila Bend so the North West guys can come around the Mountain. PM me if you are interested in going. There are probably half dozen confirmed right now. A couple of them are rookie friends of mine so everyone is welcome.

Was thinking about maybe an early May date for some shooting up north where it will be cooler. If not then, I am hoping for about the third week in August or thereabouts. September looks to be busy for me. A buddy drew an antelope tag and I will be hunting bear in CO or sitting blinds if we can still OTC archery for deer. You higher elevation guys, when do the fire bans hit your spots? When is it over? What dates do you think would work?

I have a PSE, with whisper biscuit and new slider pin sight. 60 pound draw, easy adjustable draw length. Good strings. Not 70 pounds, so lemme know if he will consider it. PM me a number to text him.

Interesting, I hear ELDx failure stories too. Just shows to run what you trust.