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I am in the East Valley. More than happy to help you get your rifle set up or help you get another. PM me with your cell. I have helped lots of guys out. A range trip can answer a lot of questions. It could just be you, no offense. A little instruction gets most guys shooting out to 1000. Shooting long range requires more than most expect. Like others said, the rifle should shoot. Get match ammo and a new scope. I bet it will go to 1000. If you are serious about getting a different set up, I might have one or help you buy another rifle if that’s really what you want. Now is a good time to buy.

Thanks Brix.

I have a Howa/Vanguard trigger. I'll ship it for $20 or pick up for $15 in East Valley. I picked up an extra, but don't need it now. Just want to get back a little of what I paid for it off ebay.

Before you disregard what I say, maybe take a minute to think about it. If you are new, there are a lot of things people will tell you and you will read, but is wisdom from the past. If you kill everything and have the skills you need, ignore below if you like. You don’t need it. Take it or leave it, but I will explain myself because I know my advice is strange to many. Right off the bat, I will concede that for many, it might not matter enough the difference in zero. And, that if you use another technique it can work and for your purposes you don’t need to change. My point is 100% prepare and practice for the field. It gives me confidence knowing that I tested it. I want everything I can get, and zeroing the way I shoot in the field is one more way to do it. Moreover, the more practice I get in field shooting positions the better. A simple rule to squeeze out the last of your performance is to zero the way you shoot in the field, and proof out your dope in the same position. This is now standard practice for many serious long range shooters. A perfect zero on the bench means little when it moves a couple tenths or nearly one MOA because you can not support your rifle under recoil as if you were on the bench. Shooting off the bench gets more hits on steel plates, but isn’t an indicator of how you will shoot in the field. It’s like someone said above, if you don’t have wind indicators, if you are testing and controlling, your don’t know and you are ignorant. I have gone shooting with enough people to see that they can shoot awesome from the bench but can’t shoot from a field position. Technique and position need to be repeatable. Every variable matters. It’s why I exclusively practice and execute shots off a tripod. It is the one method that I can use in the most varied terrain. Bench to field can absolutely make a difference, especially for new shooters to long range. Guys don’t like to fail, I t’s why guys love to measure and shoot tiny groups on the bench. Replicate it in the field, that’s where the test comes. Sure, zero on the bench, that’s where I do load development and other. But, you gotta end the way you will perform. Inside 500 yards it might not make a lot of difference, the margin of error gets absorbed. But, beyond that you gotta be much more careful. So the definition of long range might matter. In different conditions a 1000 yard shot can be easier than a 500 yard shot. Gear matters. The high recoiling rifles shift the most. Light rifles shift more than heavy rifles. It doesn’t matter how well you zero at the range on a bench in well controlled restraints. It matters how your boomstick shoots in the field. I break so many “rules”. I don’t use any pressure for a cheek weld any more because it adds pressure moving the stock to my right when recoil occurs, I put my scope in rings that push it higher, I shoot at 10 to 15 magnification out to 1000 yards, I don’t put the rifle butt in my “shoulder pocket”, but right on my collarbone as close to my neck as I can get it, I shoot a thin jacketed match bullet and avoid the shoulder at all cost, I shoot as light and as small a bullet as is effective to kill (I have no problem hunting with a 223 or 6mm bullet for elk as long as the terminal velocity is high enough), I believe nearly anyone shooting more than a 7 mag for long range hunting is over gunned and increased recoil creates worse shots, and So much is new and and goes against long held ideas. Few people believe in it so far, but if you shoot enough long range, you start to notice trends. The first couple of years I shot thousands of rounds and watched others shoot tens of thousands of rounds at long range and in as many types of positions as you could think of. I have since watched dozens of people shoot long range for the first time with my rifles. I see what I see. I am not the best, by far, that comes with more bullets down range. But, I have been to training with some of the best long range shooters in the world. I have talked with them and got advice from them. They have been to the best training in the world. Some are record holding in the AMU. I have shot with some of the best long range shooters in the nation. There have been massive advances and experience from the hundreds of thousands of bullets fired in the last decade of long range and precision rifle competitions. Many of the old rules of thumbs and ideas have been superseded by better rules. Hands down the most versatile tool is a stiff tripod and when possible a tripod or other rear support. The front support tripod and rear support sticks is a fantastic idea. I don’t use it much, but it works well for newer shooters. I shoot all the time off a tripod and get as steady as prone, but because of recoil and other factors my zero moves from my bench zero. Here is proof in the pudding to back up my take on it. Shooting off a tripod is nearly as good as it gets with the right gear and instruction. I don’t even bother with prone any more. Someone showed me how to use the tripod a couple months before the two videos below. He learned it from one of the first long range mountain shooting schools to teach it. I only repeat what the best in the business have told and right me, and everything I say I sure think I have seen. I can repeat the shooting off a tripod at 500 yards in nearly any terrain. I actually prefer ground that slopes away because it creates a shooting position with very little tension in the body and a lot of support. I have learned and modified my technique, my gear, and my rifle some since these videos. Just little tweaks to continue to develop.

Don't you want your rifle to be shooting right where you point it during the hunt? There are a bunch of reasons why shooting in the field will put the bullet in a different place than a rest on a bench. I can depend on how to how the rifle is held, what it is resting on, and the shooter's position. All the PRS and NRL type shooting has shown the differences in impact points based on what the rifle is resting and how the shooter is holding it.

It is a pretty slick system, Sig has with the BDX. I use it and recommend the rangefinders and phone app for friends. As for the scope, shots inside 400 have a pretty big margin of error built in, especially on elk. Past 400 the errors that can creep into the system make it less reliable. When it comes to long range, nothing beats an excellent scope and just dialing on the dope. There are many reasons why dialing is more accurate. And, while I use gadgets and electronics, I have redundancy down to paper data based on the atmospheric conditions for my hunting rifles. I won't just rely on the scope and rangefinder.

There is one best answer. Sight in the way you will hunt. Zeros can be affected by the position you shoot in, and for long range shooting it can make a difference. And, it identifies how far you can reliably shoot and keep the bullet on the target. Lead sleds and the like are the worst for your scope and setting a reliable zero for field use. For load development, sighting in a new scope, practice for isolating elements of the shot procedure, I will use a bipod and rear bag off a bench or prone.

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I have an unused QD jig and two 80% AR 15 lowers I bought years ago, but won't be using. $175 for all three. Pics to follow. QD Defense lowers are billet and premium. They do awesome work. East Valley

PTG had a sale going for upgraded actions. Was a great price with what you got. I picked up a really nice one. All the upgrades if you were going to do any work on it.

LOL, you must not know how the law works if you think this is a Fed post. But, it is kinda funny considering the news. The ATF's new rules wouldn't affect this cause I am not an FFL, even if it were considered two receivers. These are perfectly legal to possess, own, and sell on this forum in a FTF transaction. The new 80% lower rule makes it a "receiver" but that doesn't matter here because at most they are bought and sold like a stripped lower between private parties in AZ.

Like new in box. $500 will ship Good condition used. $450 will ship. Pics to add later. East Valley

Sorry, not available. I have a listing for Sig 3000 BDX binos I thought this was for.

Vortex Diamondback 8x42 binos, $100 OBO Khales 10x 42 binos, high quality bino but the objective lenses have had the coating rubbed. They work fantastic, but can be repaired by Swarovski in Germany. Glass by Khales is an excellent German glass, now owned by Swaro. $350 OBO

Looking for those two powders for a new rifle. I have some other powders, primer, and bullets to trades. Will buy or trade for them. I will sweeten any deal with a bag or gear we make from www.lswild.com, on top of a fair trade. Adding in value of $50 or more.

Is that a Howa Mini action?

Some pretty clean rifles in the bunch, low round count and smooth.

I will take the Berger 140 hunting VLD.

Heading north in the am

I will also take the primers. Forgot to mention that.

I will take the 4350. We can arrange pickup. I will message my cell phone.

Where'd this come from?

I will take it. I am in Chandler and will meet tomorrow.

Vortex Venom 5-25 in MIL, in Wheeler rings, less than 100 rounds on it, excellent condition. $375 OBO Burris XTR III FFF in SCR II MIL, 3-18-44, new, mounted in rings on rifle in safe. Includes rings, lever, and throw lever, $1200 OBO Will trade for H1000 and RL 26. East Valley

I have some Varget I will trade you. I think three or 4 cans and will buy any extra 4350. I will get back in town Wednesday.