Delw

Thanks for posting this. Just listened. My takeaway, they aren't interested in people that do nothing but complain. My takeaway was that Jon Koleszar was entirely condescending toward everyone on this website and is just simply annoyed with opposing viewpoints. That's a shame from someone in his position. It was not helpful and did nothing to advance this conversation. That and they didnt mention tag grab which is what this whole topic got started on to begin with. how do you search this forum, there was a spot were JON said he posted in the summer looking for help with HSUS on here.

"This plan will move ahead without your help or input." oh yeah the "PLAN" again that you have failed to bring up but yet talk bout all the time. You bet it will cause thats What don and PETE do Best and they get there way usually. They are politicians aka scum of the earth and liars, they hire /associate with TOOLS like you to do there dirty work. and I know for a fact your enjoying it cause tahts what you do best. Brings nothing to the conversation. Ban him. Go back into the kitchen were you belong.You are the exact same D bag today that you were 24 years ago. Yup, your mom was younger back then too, how's she been? You still telling that story bout 1000td shots on dogs with a 22-06? Drilling holes in live ammo? How bout 6ft bars of 1.5in brass at 5k? You have no idea who I am but I know you. Full of @#!$. you do have a man crush on me never had a 22-06 there was a guy how ever in Flagstaff that designed and built a 22-06 used a 30- 06 case necked down to 22 cal, if I recall his wife shot an elk with it. we dont use 6 foot bars use 12 foot bars not that theres that much of a difference. drilling holes in live ammo????? explain please get your facts straight cupcake

"This plan will move ahead without your help or input." oh yeah the "PLAN" again that you have failed to bring up but yet talk bout all the time. You bet it will cause thats What don and PETE do Best and they get there way usually. They are politicians aka scum of the earth and liars, they hire /associate with TOOLS like you to do there dirty work. and I know for a fact your enjoying it cause tahts what you do best. Brings nothing to the conversation. Ban him. Go back into the kitchen were you belong. You are the exact same D bag today that you were 24 years ago. Yup, your mom was younger back then too, how's she been?

I Believe you thats great antis always spread misinformation , just like PROHUNTING Groups that need something to fit there cause

"This plan will move ahead without your help or input." oh yeah the "PLAN" again that you have failed to bring up but yet talk bout all the time. You bet it will cause thats What don and PETE do Best and they get there way usually. They are politicians aka scum of the earth and liars, they hire /associate with TOOLS like you to do there dirty work. and I know for a fact your enjoying it cause tahts what you do best. Brings nothing to the conversation. Ban him. Go back into the kitchen were you belong.

Ok thats fair. so start another thread about what you want to do with HSUS, This thread on the other hand is was about the TAG GRAB so lets keep this one about that. what your doing is trying to lump the 2 together to CAPAZ doesnt look so bad.

I am trying , I am trying I am pointing out to people what a tool you really are. and your making it too easy. so rather than going back and forth in your hoping to get this thread closed or discredit anyone that is AGAINST A TAG WELFARE PROGRAM. humor those of us that would like to know what the Proposal is from the NEW Group. other than what was 1st posted with the tag grab.I am sure they have spun it around by now and reworked it. Dont play the game you dont know the PLAN cause then your a LIAR. your so far into this you know more than you let off you know. Honesty is the best policy

"This plan will move ahead without your help or input." oh yeah the "PLAN" again that you have failed to bring up but yet talk bout all the time. You bet it will cause thats What don and PETE do Best and they get there way usually. They are politicians aka scum of the earth and liars, they hire /associate with TOOLS like you to do there dirty work. and I know for a fact your enjoying it cause tahts what you do best.

oh yeah and please DONT play the Game they have meetings you can goto. cause you know thats all bull shoot. meetings get a handfull of people, however the internet gets a bunch.

you wont contribute to fighting antis, you wont contribute to conservation, and I suspect you don't contribute to life in general. Let me know when you are done with your temper tantrum. red I gotta hand it to you, youve came along and went after anyone who voiced there opinion against the WELFARE TAGS. by throwing little remarks in there to try to get them to stray from what the topic was about. So far you havent showed the proposed Game and Fish outreach plan that you kept talking about now you claim you were talking about something else ie "What i meant by that was that the article describes funding sources, that can be explored as a substitute for auction tags." you claim people in this thread have showed nothing ( I can dig up that post a few pages back as well) even though plenty of people have.then when they do you turn it around AKA spin it a different angle, taken out of context etc etc. your worse than a women you take what someone says and twist it to your own benefit to try and make them look bad. Your a tool dude, came here to do nothing but spin what has been said AGAINST WELFARE TAGS and to make them sound like people dont do anything. Have PETE and DON and the rest of there MERRY MEN COME ONLINE to Explain what THEY WANT TO DO With there real names NOT Factitious one. but they wont, there going to hid like cowards hoping this will blow over and using TOOLS like you and a few others to defend them. They have learned along time ago that what they say in print can and will be used against them. Why barbecue there politicians thats what politicians do best is find TOOLS like you to do there dirty work. Other people have spoken for Tag Welfare but yet you dont see them Acting and giving those against TAG WELFARE a bad time.

Shhhhh. Don't tell him I'm the one that posted it. I'm nothing more than a "follower." thats still not the proposal that red was talking about he kepts mentioning the proposed Game and Fish outreach plan Does this even exist?

i just want to know how in the heck I've ended up in yet another online catcalling contest with Delw a decade later. I also want to know if Ringer is so paranoid by now that he's going to send Nummie over to knock on my door and punch me in the kneecaps. you still sore you got sent to disney land? your the one who started it. you came in doing what you do best antagonizing people with cheap shots. stick to what you SAY you do best fighting antis. Gotta admit this is funny , you still have some good one liners keep them up

HAHA no face book is for homos and women. no it wasnt the fishing websites demise. I sold it thats why its done. Nice try though oh yeah I sold it to buy and Ram auction tag, and believe it or not it sold for about what they go for

Come on TH get with the program, Red it explained it many times and its on this thread. he said so himself.

The distain for this website and it's "keyboard killers" just drips from those folks on that radio show. anyone who listens Don Mcdowell is a fool. he lost his credibility in the 2000's when he beat the crap out of his wife and oput her in ER on her death bed.

naw, the hundreds i have signed on, as well as several heads of large hunting pages, groups, blogs, youtube channels, etc. that are ready to back any proposals CAPAZ has might decide, though. See ThomC, when you actually get out and do things, people take notice. thats the scarey part they are stupid enough to "back any proposals CAPAZ has might decide," key word being any Right out of the obamacare playbook. you sign it then read it later. your turning into a con artist just liek the rest of Pete and his Merry Men

And people were but you said they werent. You talked about the "proposed Game and Fish outreach plan" but yet dont have any clue where it is. other then bits and pcs here on this thread. DUDE are you on DRUGS? I have no problem with people buying welfare tags. more power to them if there avail. enough of this win win solution for both sides bullshit and working against each other crap. its been played too much. Just because some people don't want MORE welfare tags were against each other ?..... Maybe they dont trust PETE and his Merry men. Anyway fool txt my cell later Kid has it. hers phone died so you can give her crap.

What the question is too hard for you? you said ". I'm here to strategize with those interested in finding funding solutions for the proposed Game and Fish outreach plan. And like I've stated several times, but apparently it's in invisible ink,." but yet you have no clue what your strategizing and or for whom? you sound pretty wishy washy since you started posting. as far as me and conservation BLOW ME you have no clue oh, I have more than a clue. You're just angry that someone is doing something you didn't think of. You aren't going to support anything that isn't your idea. Well guess what, lots of sportsmen want this education plan in place, and they even want raffle tags. Maybe not auction tags, and I'm cool with that. For your offer in your last sentence, get Ringer to do it, hes used to it. I just not for welfare tags, which is what this thread was about. I dont get involved in politics to many liars and thieves for me. so because I dont support welfare tags your saying . I am angry and someone else is doing something I didnt think of so I'm not going to support it? Thats kinda childish even for you too say. you have any relations to Clinton or Comey maybe the Democratic party? you sound just like one of them. Edit: for the record welfare tags are Auction and Raffle tags

yeah back in the day alot of people called kfyi suggesting the same thing, I believe it was on blow out the phones with bob mohan (sp) as well

What the question is too hard for you? you said ". I'm here to strategize with those interested in finding funding solutions for the proposed Game and Fish outreach plan. And like I've stated several times, but apparently it's in invisible ink,." but yet you have no clue what your strategizing and or for whom? you sound pretty wishy washy since you started posting. as far as me and conservation BLOW ME you have no clue

You said there was a "proposed Game and Fish outreach plan". I wanna see it in writing.everything else from the outside groups are "TAG GRABS" if its a proposal by a GROUP then its in writing otherwise it isnt a proposal. sure would be nice to see the so called PROPOSAL by the GROUP doing the PROPOSING. even if it is a TAG GRAB PROPOSAL show it in its entirety whos asking for this G&F or DID PETE and his merry men come up with it on there own and using G&F as a cool name drop to get some love from hunters who are skeptical. not one of you cheer learders have been honest yet. everytime someone asks a question or suggests something its .. will not work get on board, we will bring it up, come to the meeting, listen to my pod cast. blah blah blah. reminds me of when Mary rose willcox snuck that stadium though the legislators at midnight cause she knew as well as the board no one in AZ would go for it. and look what happened to her she got shot in the butt for it.

I'm not here for my group. I'm here to strategize with those interested in finding funding solutions for the proposed Game and Fish outreach plan. And like I've stated several times, but apparently it's in invisible ink, I'm on board with auction tags or no auction tags. Ok maybe I missed it but what is the " proposed Game and Fish outreach plan." did anyone post it yet?

Do you blame people fo rworrying about the characters involved? Ive seen plently of progress made in these threads by quite a few guys IDGF is one of them. how ever it may not be the progress you want. show me in any of my posts where i have stated what kind of progress I want. I'll wait. you said "Still haven't made any progress on the topic." Reread what I said..... " HOWEVER IT MAY NOT BE THE PROGRESS YOU WANT" I have no clue what you want nor do I really care. your a cheerleader from someone or something ,like a few others.

Ringer I gotta give him credit for that ( i didnt watch the vids) but there have been a few to get in the faces of anti although I dont remember anyone doing so for a tag grabbing group. back in the day when earth 1st was big and popular early 80's a few of us went to there meetings to see what they were up to and who certain people were. when the antis where hammering varmit hunters aabout yote contests and anti fur stuff again back in the 80's at game and fish a few people infiltrated there group so to speak. granted we were young and dumb back then but there was no internet so getting info was risky and hard to do.

Do you blame people fo rworrying about the characters involved? Ive seen plently of progress made in these threads by quite a few guys IDGF is one of them. how ever it may not be the progress you want.