Maddglasser

Over the last week I have been told of many outlandish statements, accusations, and assumptions. I've heard of name calling, story building and coattail riding. Pure and simple, if you want the REAL story...ask the right people. With that being said, my judgement of Curly was wrong. Some say score doesn't matter. But in this age, it truly does. I called Curly 190. In many ways I knew he wasn't. Easy said now. I won't name the influential others that argued he was bigger. As time went on in the 120 degree heat and 3 years later, my love for this old ram resonated into my score for him. I was off, given the chance to see a ram like Curly again? I will make the same exact mistake again. My guess was based off of my experience, not buddies at the bow shop and certainly not from internet forums.I put my guess from my own eyes on this ram over 9 times. Its funny how many people had hijacked pics and internet knowledge but yet never spent one minute looking for Curly. If my text/type made you to not want to book with me, GOOD! What you see is what you get. I guess that makes me a douchebag.if you ever do need any help in western Arizona tho, I will help you any way I can. I do have passion.I did not accidentally post what I did. I was not hiding and I was not avoiding "owning up" I was enjoying an encredible season...once again. Here's to 47 rams and here's to all the years ahead enjoying what I do.I don't apologize to any if you don't like me...chances are, I won't like you. Have at it boys, I can handle it. However, this is my last time on this site. This is what will make hunting only stories to our grandchildren.

Good luck guys

I guess " seeing" one dead makes you allsayeth. Get it.

Lol Zack you're the man. Thanks. Love you all. I saw that ram alive and hunter miss him year before.

Lol one ram wonders.... you all got it figured out. I will let yall know all boys.

You know more than I do

Lol... you're the expert homeboy

Where's Boner sucker?

Naw... I don't argue with " Cabela Outfitters" about gear....

Lol... but I'm out.

Lol lets strive for 10 that make sense first

Lmfao! Nail on the head brother!

Yeah man I'm the dumb one here. But these kids got to stop.

Mine is 928 232 2366... call me Boner Collector

I hope you and I meet. Message me your number and I WILL be there.

I was holding my clients buck you stupid arse

Good luck when you draw your tag boner. Maybe Tim Downs will grace you along the way and coat tail his way to your success. Until then I will ALWAYS fly my flag on the mountain I made and the unit records ADO has made. A seat is always open for you to run your mouth sitting next to me anytime you or Tim Downs wants.

Most of what you said, WELL DONE. I agree on most rams. I don't hunt there. I refuse to. But, they are non knowing of hunters. But in some units, nature is a bitch.

I don't know who boner is but his mouth is writing checks his butt can't cash in many ways. I tried to give an insight on scoring sheep. I'm just a guy that hunts them, very successfully, but was trying to help. If you took boners age and multiplied by two and added half that, that's how many rams I've been on.

Shut up boner, I dont throw rocks at you while you're mowing lawns

Hey slugger, I guess you're too young to know any better. I wish I had your testosterone and acne. Fortunately though, I grew out of it. I raise 3 kids. Its enough to keep me busy. So, to argue with you would be like arguing with a pierced up bubble gum chewing cellphone addict little girl. I hope my accomplishments and work in the desert help you and your kids in the future. Lets talk in 10 years while you're still young but after you knew everything.

Lol ok kid...you win. Be careful not to burn the fries while your typing, you may just make employee of the month. I guess there's a reason I was called for the hunt not you. But, carry on sport.

Well boner collector, you know more about sheep hunting than I do. Come find him and get your paycheck.

Zack.... stop playing the field.

I usually start with my measurements based off the seconds. I do this because 2nd quarter measurements are almost always visible at any angle. I compare the seconds to the rams nose, more specifically, where the white meets the gray. So I will move forward from there. His Seconds are obviously larger than the nose. The average nose is 12 - 12.5 inches. This rams seconds will be 13 5/8 - 13 7/8. His first is slightly bigger, 14 1/4 - 14 3/8 and bases 14 1/2 - 14 6/8. Thirds are tricky because they are incredible on this ram. I'm guessing 11 - 11 1/2. That brings the mass total to 53 3/8 - 54 4/8 multiply by two that's 106 6/8- 109. Length is solid over 40 on both horns givin how low he drops. Remember, the length measurement is taken on outside of the horn so inside of horn does not matter. Low is 41 1/2 - 43. Add that up 192 - 195. Of course my measurements are derived by seeing him in person many times and as close as 10 yards...not just looking at pics. Also, I have numerous 180 plus rams in Western Arizona... he's the biggest ram I've ever seen.