Solid advice. One of my honey holes is much further north, but I was worried after last year that there wouldn't be any water up there and that the elk had moved south where more reliable sources could be found. But I imagine once the rains hit this year that they had no problem pushing north, especially with all the human traffic to the south. Gonna give it heck and see what we can do, but no road hunting for us. I refuse to let my kid kill one close to the road. He's got to pack his first elk out some distance. I've guided 5 different kids (family friends; before my kids were old enough) to their first elk and all of them had to haul out meat. That is a huge part of the process to me. You learn to respect the animal more, IMHO. My boy, Gunnar, killed his first Coues deer when he was ten ~1.5 miles and a thousand foot climb from the trailhead, and he talks about it constantly 2 years later. It's a huge source of pride for him, and I don't want him thinking elk hunting is easy since, as you guys know, it's usually not.. 😉