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Air Gun coming to archery seasons in AZ
Huntermichael replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
Seems like the ABA represents bowhunters specifically. Not the entire hunting community. Not sure where they stands on trail cameras. What organizations are fighting against the trail camera rule? Have they reached out to ABA for help? Personally, I'm stoked about the new regulation against them. -
dead expo unfortunately, 3d popup shoot is the most popular event
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Air Gun coming to archery seasons in AZ
Huntermichael replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
Thanks for the input. I don't know everything about the capabilities of a crossbow as I have never discharged one. Thanks for the honest input gentlemen. I could see the possibility of a crossbow doing the same in the video with adequate skill or maybe with a tripod. I still believe the airgun has greater capabilities than a crossbow. I also believe it creates an unfair advantage over the quarry. Primarily I believe a gun has no place in an archery hunt. Simple as that. Don't get me wrong, the air gun looks cool. I'd hunt predators with it, but not in an any archery season. -
Air Gun coming to archery seasons in AZ
Huntermichael replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
Watch the video of a guy hitting steel at 202 yards. With a slight crosswind correction, lands a perfect shot on the second attempt. hoghntr: Thanks for all your honest input on the topic. I've enjoyed hearing your perspective as a crossbow permit holder. Please enlighten us, can you crossbow do this? -
Air Gun coming to archery seasons in AZ
Huntermichael replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
Bill Quimby: Interesting information. I didn't know most of that. I hunted with a fairly reputable outfitter through a hunt that I won. Thanks for the input. Important information to consider before returning to Africa. Yes people primarily hunt out of elevated blinds, or pit blinds. And yes they come in to water when they are thirsty, just like elk do in september when we sit in treestands. Not really much difference, other than the cultural perspective of what is ethical and what is not. -
Air Gun coming to archery seasons in AZ
Huntermichael replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
I agree crossbow permits should be harder to get. I don't know that there's much to be done, unless you have a proposal. AZGFD requires a letter from your doctor. If one doctor doesn't give the guy a letter, he's on to the next doctor. I'm not fighting against the crossbow, or the guy who needs a crossbow. I have family that use assisted draw compound bows, and I commend him for sticking to archery even though he cant draw a bow. I believe it's the principle of the matter. The owner's manual of the "air bow" clearly states that it is a gun. Once we allow a gun into an archery hunt, where does it stop? What technology comes out next? Before you know it, in 5 or 10 years we have shoulder mounted rifles that shoot laser beams in an archery hunt. It's a slippery slope sir. I hope you don't look back in ten years and regret not taking action. I personally want to teach my kids and grandkids the art of archery and bowhunting. If you disagree, so be it. Have a great day. -
Air Gun coming to archery seasons in AZ
Huntermichael replied to Huntermichael's topic in The Campfire
Thanks for all your kind words gentlemen. Looking forward to meeting you all in the field some day. I'll be sure to come back and post here with you stand up citizens more often. This is not for CHAMP holders. This is for anyone who goes to the doctor and says their shoulder hurts, and wants to shoot an animal from 200 yards with a gun during an archery season. Yes there are people who cannot draw a bow, and yes the crossbow has been made an exception for them. However, the air gun creates an unfair advantage over other archery hunters and the quarry. Some of us do believe in fair chase. And before you go laughing because you think I hunt "high-fence", spot and stalk wild animals with a bow on a 200,000 acre property is still fair chase and by no means easy. Individuals with mobility issues who cannot "walk or stalk" are eligible for a champ permit, where they may use any firearm, gun, or bow that they choose. I have no issue with a guy using an air gun to hunt, how about they just do it in a general hunt where guns are appropriate. Also, I did not mention anything about P&Y scoring or recording air gun or crossbow harvests. Greyghost: if you think Kudu are captive animals, ill bet you've never seen one jump an 8 foot fence. -
Greetings all: If you haven't heard, the air gun has been approved for use with crossbow permits during archery seasons. R12-4-216 Crossbow Permit The Commission proposes to amend the rule to allow a Crossbow Permit holder to use a pre-charged pneumatic weapon, as defined under R12-4-301, using bolts or arrows for the take of wildlife. This change is proposed as a result of customer comments received by the Department. It's time for the archery community in Arizona to unify together and put a stop to this. Please take at look at the attached document and if you agree with this stance, keep reading. ABA Air Bow Position Statement.pdf Here's how YOU can make a difference: 1 Write a letter to our delegates. Tell them how you feel 2 Tell your friends, ask them to write a letter if they agree. 3 If you are involved in any other hunting/archery organization or community, inform them of the situation by passing along the attached document. Then ask them to write a letter, or public stance statement to show unity amongst groups. 4 Come to the next commissioners meeting April 6 & 7th in Phoenix. Stand behind us as we stand up to oppose this. Send your letters to: Jay Cook - jcook@azgfd.gov rulemaking@azgfd.gov Hope everyone is having an excellent day Cheers
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Thank you all for the input. Azdiamondheat - Ed F - my initial assumption was exactly as you said. Either a property owner hasn't been asked for permission and they aren't quite sure how to respond (unlikely) or they have been asked enough times to realize they can generate revenue from hunters - supply and demand. (most likely) I do assume that most access to feral hog hunting in California is on private land. Which brings me to the question, is there even opportunity to hunt hogs on public land? I would assume yes but with limited opportunity in specific regions. As mentioned before, I have not hunted in California and have only heard stories from those who have. AZ23 - Found the website. Looks like a great deal! Couldn't ask for any better response. Passed along the info to my buddy and we both greatly appreciate the help. Any chance you might know any details about the hunt? I've heard there is a high density of pigs in the sonoma area. Have you been on this hunt before or do you know if there is good opportunity for success?
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Greetings: I hope to find everyone doing well, and thanks in advance for reading this thread. I've got a buddy in LA area new to hunting. He had his first ever hunt (archery deer in california) last year which was unsuccessful. I had him put in for Javelina in AZ this year and he drew. We filled 3/4 tags from one herd on our third day hunting and I'm very happy to have helped my buddy, a new hunter, successfully harvest his first animal, especially archery harvest. On topic - He has a ton of interest in pursuing hogs in Cali and would like to take me out there to hunt them as well. I've been doing my best to give him general advice about hunting hogs. The basics like using maps to stay on public land, looking for sign, feral hog patterns (based on what i've seen on hunting shows) etc. He tells me that theres a big problem with these hogs in the wine country. My first instinct is to tell him to make cold calls to properties and see if anyone has a problem that he can assist with. Moral of the story - I don't know the first thing about california, but at the very least I'd really like to get him a starting point on where to "LOOK" for some hogs. What do you all recommend? Seeking permission on private land? Hunting public land on the outskirts of private land? Could really use anyone's advice on where or how to even start looking for suitable places that we might be able to hunt hogs. Not asking for GPS coords or anything specific. Just a starting point of where or how to begin looking for an area that we could hunt. Thanks in advance, looking forward to hearing back from you all Hunter
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I believe the poundage is set at 62#. The limbs are backed off a decent amount, leading me to believe it has 70# limbs. Does this clarify your questions?
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