CatfishKev

For the next go around. Baitboxes which hold rat traps and poison are a good thing. Learn how and where rats travel, they scurry and want to be undetected, find cover routes and intersections. Learn how to set traps. Rats are a bit smarter then mice, they will jump (hop) over traps if it's an unfamiliar road block. Setting 2 or three will help because they sometimes hop the first but will land in the second or third. Keep a big snap trap inside the bait box as well, a dead rat inside is a straight up invite to others, mmm you smell that?!? The baitboxes are also helpful in terms of baits, depending on the dog you may or may not have. The chemical I am most familiar with is bromadiolone, contrac was my rodenticide of choice. Keep in mind secondary poisoning, the smaller the dog the more cautious i would be. At my house i have no problem running a contrac box outside of the dog fence and I have small dogs. Remember the idea is greedy little rodents will fill up on a free meal, even my tiny little Boston terriers can't fill up on dead poisoned rats enough to make it kill them.

If the glove don't fit you gotta acquit

Doubt it.

When you're good you're good. Let's keep this thread goin baby!

I'll never stop.

Awe man I feel so bad for you!

They probably got slammed, it happens. Just needed some time to catch up. They do a great job.

Probably, but it depends where their ranch is.

I didn't mean too. I was referring to the ranchers and the gate issues.

Cool I'm out too! Hit me up on grindr.

Lol. If they let you have access it's nice and polite to follow the rules.

The first proposal that got shot down was no cams within 1/4 mile of a point water source.

Now that the 6.5 is crazy popular ammo manufacturers have really made it an all around caliber. That puts it right next to the 7-08 which is a great all around caliber. You can go from 130 to 147 grain bullets and the 147 match that hornady makes are great performers. Last 2 hunts we were on the 147 put an almost 2" exit hole on my daughter's muley. My sons cow had a nice entrance and we could feel the bullet under the hide on the opposite side. That means it spent all of its energy in the boiler room where You want it. She probably went less the 20 yards. Your size frame I would recommend the 6.5. And as far as the best value for the money spent there's probably not a better shooting 6.5 then the ruger American predator. It's gonna be the best in its class for value and comes pre threaded for a brake or silencer. If you must have a heavier caliber my next favorite would be a 7 mag.

Unfortunately a few bad apples get the ranchers pissed off. They ignore the signs about gates and leave a bunch of crap behind, I honestly can't blame them for being pissed. I bet a whole lot of people are gonna wish the 1/4 mile rule passed last time around. If i had to choose between the 1/4 mile, a season or a complete ban i would go with the 1/4 mile rule. Hopefully they go with a season and not a complete ban.

Fair. Based on go buy 100 cams comment though. Most people i know cant and also would not do that. Agree to disagree it at this point.

This is all about cams though. Paying to learn a better skill set is just that, learning. Running cams requires no skill set when placed on every water source. And again, not for or against them but there is a huge difference between glassing and setting a bunch of cams. One is hunting, one is not.

I'm not upset. I just think you are out of touch. I also think as already stated the stamp idea doesn't hurt guides, just us peasants. Don't take anything I say personally, I'm sure you are a good hardworking dude. Just expressing my opinion on this general topic of cams. Nothing is meant to be hurtful.

I don't hate on any guides at all. Guides give their all. Outfitters cash in on that. Some outfitters are good, some are scum of the earth.

Never once implied you dont work hard. I'm sure you do. But your comment about cams makes it sound like the same results are attainable for regular dudes as they are for outfitters. That's just not true.

Yes I said that. Based on the go buy 100 cams comment. Do you have 6k to drop on cams? I don't but if you do, I'm sincerely happy for ya. Guides aren't necessarily Priveliged, I'm just saying the cost won't be out of their pocket, it will be out of the clients, therefore still making it harder for the average dude that has no justification to pay the extra fee. And don't be silly, of course you can buy hunting skills. Just spend $6k on cams.

Simply putting things in perspective, its not that hard to understand. You made it sound like it's an anti guide thing and it's not. I like the idea of guiding simply because it's the only way to get paid to do what You love. Seems pretty simple on my end. And then you throw in the go buy 100 cams comment. What world do you live in? Oh yeah, the one where you dont need 100 cams... makes total sense now. I'll just keep doing my thing over here I guess.

Honestly that's a very fair question. Yes seasons overlap, but the worse offending hunts are gonna be the early elk, kaibab and strip hunts. But like I said permits per cam WILL NOT change the situation, they will only put $$$ in the game and fish bank. Now its time to expect AZGFD to put their money where their mouth is. Is it a $ issue or fair chase???

I'm not against that. But to say just go buy 100 cams like anyone can do it is stupid. We don't all come from privelage. I'm not for or against cams.

Whos against guides? Just saying they wont brunt the force of the cost, they will simply transfer the cost to the client. And um.... 100 cams x let's say $60 per cam (for a decent cam) = $6000 Which amazingly probably cost more then a guided hunt. Privileged guy that gets to go keep people off of his private Midwest farms so only his clan can hunt them. Rollingmyfuckineyes.

Agreed. Thing is one has to wonder if game and fish is looking at this as a fair chase issue or a untapped cash cow issue. If it's a money issue they will simply charge a fee per cam which in turn the guides will happily raise their prices to cover, and also therefore also make hunting even harder for the common man. If it's truly a fair chase issue in their mind they will make a "season" for cams. And ya know what? It's pretty hard IMO to say cams aren't a fair chase issue. I.E. cams everywhere on every trophy elk and mule deer hunt. Patterning the big bull or buck, Armies of guys on ridges and blocking roads etc. I'm sorry but It's real hard to argue fair chase under those circumstances. Personally, I'd rather see a season for cams, or them go away completely before seeing a trail cam fee. A fee for cams will only give guides more advantage and regular shmoes even less in an already uneven playing field.