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I did some research on the stock, the rifle was built in the 1940's, i ran across and article that said that back then if you wanted the stock longer, you could send it back to the factory and they would add to the stock to make it longer, whether that is true or not i don't know. The rifle belonged to my dad, after he passed away a few years ago i inherited the gun, i do know he never used the gun for hunting, i did not know he even had it, and i do not know where he got it. Except for the odd butt addition, the rifle is in very good condition, hardly looks like it was ever used.

For sale price change white/sliver 2006 dodge ram diesel 2500, TRX4 off road package, 5.9 cummins, automatic transmission 173,000 miles. The pickup is in excellent condition both inside and out. It has been well maintained and serviced by one of the top rated diesel shops in the Phoenix area. The pickup is completely stock, no alterations. Very few towing miles, there is no gooseneck hitch in this pickup. Tires BF Goodrich All Terrain LT 285/70R17, $22,500.00 If someone is seriously interested in buying this pickup, then PM me and we can discuss the pickup in length. Pictures of this pickup are on craigslist, only one with TRX4 off road decal on it

Price reduction $21,000

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/5791307996.html

Pictures are on craigslist

I forgot to put in the description, it is a 4X4

I have a model 99 300 savage that i would sell. the rifle is in great condition, rifle built in 1942

jimmy john's ram is a desert bighorn ram, he bought the desert raffle tag from the winner of the tag, the rocky raffle hunter has not hunted yet

He is a desert ram. This years Arizona auction tag sold for $400,000.00

New Mexico releases pen raised desert bighorns, ewes and rams from there red rock facility into there existing sheep populations all the time, call them and ask them.

True some rams do not show much damage, but most older rams do, the pen raised rams in Mexico i have seen do broom the ends on the enclosure fences. It does not matter to me, but that was the way the hunt was done. Grand Slam Club/Ovis conducted the auction. I am not saying it was for sure a pen raised ram, but after 30 years of hunting sheep, big rams like this one, someone has prior pictures of him especially in the unit he was in.

In New Mexico you can sell the sheep tag if you are the raffle winner. The raffle winner decided to sell his tag, the outfitter that he had booked with said he would put it up for auction for the big money people. The outfitter claimed he did not know of any big rams. Puts it up for auction, then all of a sudden this ram shows up just off the highway with some ewes and other rams, outfitter calls jimmy john, he pays $400,000.00 jumps on a plane flys out kills the ram on the same day. This could happen, but he is a older ram with no chips, no one has surfaced that has ever seen the ram before, if he had lived in the wild his entire life some one would know about him, and he would have some chips on his horns from fighting. Maybe they should look for tire tracks at a gate where a stock trailer unloaded him. Could be a pen raised ram from New Mexico's red rock holding facility.

i sent you a PM

just FYI sdrhunter facts are not correct

270 not every other ranch out there has 500,000 deeded acres. Every ranch i have owned or had something to do with. If the BLM or Forest Service control the majority of the land they dictate what happens on the land. If it is arizona trust lands they dictate what happens on the land. If the land is majority private land as the boquillas is then they dictate what happens on the land

Again i will just try to put forth information and facts they may be helpful to the people that would like to know about the ranch, the people who have no intention of letting the facts sink in are of course entitled to do so. In the 1970's there were virtually no elk on the ranch. G&F is mandated by law to manage the wildlife in this state as long as they have access to do so, and they have never been denied access to do so on the ranch. They are supposed to manage the numbers of wildlife, just like cattle numbers are managed for carrying capacity. The G&F could have managed the numbers of elk in the last 30 years so that they did not impact the ranch to the extent that they have, but they did not do so. Hunters also impact ranches. Anytime you you have heavy traffic on dirt roads, the dirt roads will require much more maintenance with increase of traffic on these dirt roads, and again it is all private road maintenance by the ranch. There are other impacts, but roads is a major one. Lets get some facts out there about hunting and the hunt program. If you take the time to go to the website you will get most of your answers, but i will try and highlight some of it. The ranch rules were implemented to create a place for good ethic's in hunting to be practiced and hopefully it would also create a more quality hunting experience, (more on that later) and to lessen any conflicts that may occur between the cattle operation and hunters. There are no ranch sponsored guides or outfitters on this ranch. There was a incorrect comment earlier implying that Lee Murphy the hunt manager, who is also a outfitter may in some way benefit, completely untrue. He had several hunters in unit 10 last year and only hunted one hunter for antelope on on the ranch, so that no one would think there was a conflict of interest. Do not imply something if you don't know. As far as the ones thinking we are locking hunters out when we need the hunters to manage the elk herds(mostly cow elk hunts) you need to research before you speak. Go to the website and the fee structure for 2016. The cow elk hunts are $50.00 for 2016 ten dollars cheaper than they were in 2015, There are no limits on the number of hunters that want o hunt the general hunts, only the high demand hunts. High demand hunts Why? Sure it will generate more income to help offset ranch expense, with less impact to the ranch in people numbers. High demand hunts are of course just what it says, and means the rut hunts for early bull elk and antelope. hunters that draw these hunts many have waited up to 20 plus years to get the tag and really want a quality hunt and hunting experience. You can not have a quality hunt if there are to many hunters in the field at the same time. Many many!!! hunters have told us they are fed up with the hunter opportunity that G&F promotes, you all know what i am talking about 500 or 600 hundred deer permits in a hunt unit and people everywhere. We felt that if we limited the number of hunters on the HD hunts it would create a atmosphere for a much more quality hunt and hunting experience, and at the same time increase the age class of these animals so that the trophy quality would be better. If you go to the website you will see that 60% of these HD hunts are reserved for DIY hunters, all of these permits are on a first come first serve basis. If the DIY hunters do not reserve all of the 60% allotted to them by a certain date(not sure what that date yet is)then if a hunter wants to go guided he may do so, if he did not get in on the guide or outfitters 40% allotted numbers. We feel $500.00 is a fair price for a quality hunt in a quality hunting area with good trophy class animals. In other states cow elk permits bring $500.00

The grazing fee's fluctuate, depending on cattle price for a year. The cost of infrastructure development and maintenance of ranch improvements for roads, water and fence's etc is much higher per animal unit than the grazing fee's. The cost to raise a calf to a point he is marketable on todays market with today's expenses can be anywhere from $500.00 to $800.00 per head, depending on the ranch, that would be about $60.00 per cow and calf per month to maintain that animal unit not complaining that is just real world cost on todays market, and everyone has to deal with it. The point is elk utilize just about as much feed and water as a cow does, so they have to be figured into the expense cost for the ranch. That is not an issue if there is not a large herd of elk on the ranch, say 4 or 5 hundred, but when you get into the thousands, that is a cost that any business would could not tolerate. Simple example if you were in the restaurant business and you owned the building(private property) or say you leased the building and 30 to 40 percent of the the people came in and had a meal and beverage than just left with out paying for anything, i suspect you probably would not like the outcome. The trespass fee is just to help off set some of these expenses. Private land on the ranch is about 500,000 acres, 99.9 percent of the water for wildlife and cattle on private and state trust lands is owned by the ranch. The road system on the ranch is owned and maintained by the ranch.

270 you missed the point of the entire post, as far as drought that is part of the business, you missed the point there to.

FYI, correct information concerning the Boquillas ranch First i am not a employee of the ranch or hunt program, and i am not a outfitter. I have done business with the present lessee, and i was involved with the hunt program early on. The ranch is right at two thirds private land and one third Arizona state trust lands. Arizona state trust lands are not public lands, you can go to the Arizona state land department web site and read there mandate, they are not multiple use lands like federal lands are(forest service BLM) All of the improvements on these trust lands are built and maintained by the lessee and owned by the lessee, examples dirt stock tanks, metal water storage tanks, water troughs, pipelines, fence's etc. The water runoff that collects in the dirt stock tanks is owned by the state of Arizona, all of the pumped water(400 miles of pipeline on the Boquillas) is owned by the ranch, it is piped from a private well at considerable expense, again we are talking about state trust lands, on the private lands the ranch owns the grass, water, and all improvements. Any water trough or metal storage tank on trust lands, the water is owned by the ranch. The Boquillas ranch pays the Arizona state land dept, approximately $130,000.00 per year for the grazing fee's, that is for the grass only, all other expenses on trust lands is paid for by the ranch. All dirt roads on the ranch be it private or state trust lands are built and maintained by the ranch, there are no county maintained roads on the ranch. As many of you know this is a dry arid part of Arizona, with no live streams, very few springs or seeps. There is a book written by Dave Brown former G&F employee about the history of wildlife in Arizona in the !800"s, the early explorers found little or no wildlife in this part of Arizona which now the Boquillas. Realistically there would not be a huntable population of any big game animal on the Boquillas if not for the millions of dollars spent on this ranch for water development and maintenance over the years. The ranch is not anti wildlife or anti hunter, but the impact of hunting and wildlife, (mostly elk) is a huge cost on water and grass on private lands, and water on trust lands. If you go back to say 1989 and look up the amount of permits for elk(i have)from 1989 until present you will see each year the permits were increased as the elk herd grew from a couple of hundred permits up to present where it is over 2000. Game and Fish grew the elk herd for hunter opportunity at the expense of the ranch. The ranch over the years has had to reduce its carrying capacity because of the increase of elk. This ranch is a very serious large cattle business operation, and the bottom line on the balance sheet is important. Just so you know in 2002 one of the driest rainfall years on record, the Boquillas had to ship all of the cattle off the ranch, at a cost of a over a million dollars until it started raining again. The lessee left all of the pumped water on for the wildlife during that dry time when the cattle were off the ranch. The cost to just pump the water at the well is over $3000.00 per month.