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If your first choice was 24bn and not a misprint, you could have drawn it, in 2016 the one permit in 24bn went o someone with 6 points, and the person that drew the tag did not even hunt.

You are correct, 30 to 40% max point holders for desert bighorn apply for two units, i stay away from those two units when applying

This is the 50th consecutive year putting in for sheep, patient and unlucky, there are approximately 64 of us left in the max point pool. If you look at the data, very seldom does a max point holder for sheep ever draw a permit in the general round, it's the 20% bonus point round or nothing

No hits for sheep, now i have 29 points

You are correct Bill, Even the true wild horses the Spanish mustangs were still decedents of domestic horses, although having been living in the wild for a couple of hundred years. Some of the first wild horses i gathered as a young boy in the late 1950's early 60's was Spanish mustangs in the Weaver mountains east of Yarnell. These horses had a completely different look to them then modern domestic horses. Of all the horses we caught, not one of them weighed over 700 pounds. I doubt there are any of these horses left in Arizona today, The worst this Nixon did as president was not watergate, it was signing the wild horse and burro act, and the endangered species act.

The salt river horses are simply Fort McDowell Indian reservation horses, the reservation does not want them, G&F does not want them there because of the bighorn sheep habitat in that area, Forest service does not want them there either. The problem could have been taken care of early on, but once the wild horse people found out about them and started taking pictures and publicizing it, to late. They insist that they are protected by the wild horse and burro act. These are not! wild horses, people get within a few feet of them and take pictures, you can see indian brands on some of them. Before the wild horse and burro act i used to gather on contract wild horses and burros, true wild horses or burros will leave in a hurry if they wind or see you within a half mile or a mile of them. Once they quite killing horses for meat in the US, and there is no market value for horse meat, many of the reservations just let there horses go.

I have a custom built quad/equipment trailer, that I am putting up for sale next week it is used, I am out of town right now but can give you exact measurements mid next week, the tires are very tall bf Goodrich all terrain 15 inch rims, the trailer has 19 inch ground clearance, all metal, you can put one large quad in it or your equipment, has a drop down back ramp. This trailer will fallow you anywhere you want to pull it

price reduced $375.00 firm

$400.00

13 inches

queen creek

I did some research on the stock, the rifle was built in the 1940's, i ran across and article that said that back then if you wanted the stock longer, you could send it back to the factory and they would add to the stock to make it longer, whether that is true or not i don't know. The rifle belonged to my dad, after he passed away a few years ago i inherited the gun, i do know he never used the gun for hunting, i did not know he even had it, and i do not know where he got it. Except for the odd butt addition, the rifle is in very good condition, hardly looks like it was ever used.

Price reduction $21,000

For sale price change white/sliver 2006 dodge ram diesel 2500, TRX4 off road package, 5.9 cummins, automatic transmission 173,000 miles. The pickup is in excellent condition both inside and out. It has been well maintained and serviced by one of the top rated diesel shops in the Phoenix area. The pickup is completely stock, no alterations. Very few towing miles, there is no gooseneck hitch in this pickup. Tires BF Goodrich All Terrain LT 285/70R17, $22,500.00 If someone is seriously interested in buying this pickup, then PM me and we can discuss the pickup in length. Pictures of this pickup are on craigslist, only one with TRX4 off road decal on it

http://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/5791307996.html

Pictures are on craigslist

I forgot to put in the description, it is a 4X4

I have a model 99 300 savage that i would sell. the rifle is in great condition, rifle built in 1942

jimmy john's ram is a desert bighorn ram, he bought the desert raffle tag from the winner of the tag, the rocky raffle hunter has not hunted yet

He is a desert ram. This years Arizona auction tag sold for $400,000.00

New Mexico releases pen raised desert bighorns, ewes and rams from there red rock facility into there existing sheep populations all the time, call them and ask them.

True some rams do not show much damage, but most older rams do, the pen raised rams in Mexico i have seen do broom the ends on the enclosure fences. It does not matter to me, but that was the way the hunt was done. Grand Slam Club/Ovis conducted the auction. I am not saying it was for sure a pen raised ram, but after 30 years of hunting sheep, big rams like this one, someone has prior pictures of him especially in the unit he was in.

In New Mexico you can sell the sheep tag if you are the raffle winner. The raffle winner decided to sell his tag, the outfitter that he had booked with said he would put it up for auction for the big money people. The outfitter claimed he did not know of any big rams. Puts it up for auction, then all of a sudden this ram shows up just off the highway with some ewes and other rams, outfitter calls jimmy john, he pays $400,000.00 jumps on a plane flys out kills the ram on the same day. This could happen, but he is a older ram with no chips, no one has surfaced that has ever seen the ram before, if he had lived in the wild his entire life some one would know about him, and he would have some chips on his horns from fighting. Maybe they should look for tire tracks at a gate where a stock trailer unloaded him. Could be a pen raised ram from New Mexico's red rock holding facility.

i sent you a PM