stillatmaxpoints

Those are landowner tags in colorado and new mexico are not for depredation. If you don't draw a antelope tag in the arizona draw and you buy a antelope landowner tag in new mexico, so you can hunt antelope you are supporting landowner tags

There is so much misinformation posted on this topic, especially on ranches and there ownership and subsidies they get, less than 1%, but on a forum like this you can say anything, you will not be held accountable for it and we all understand that. Landowner tags, permits or vouchers can and do have a place in hunting if structured properly. For those that do not want them in any form at all, just remember if you participate in the Conservation First AZBGSR super raffle and you buy tickets for the Colorado or New Mexico bull elk hunts then you are supporting landowner tags, permits, or vouchers, because both of those hunts are landowner tags.

i did read the book, there was lots of wildlife where there was year round water

i did read the book, there was lots of wildlife where there was year round water

Man and Wildlife in Arizona The American Exploration Period 1824-1865 By Goode P Davis JR G&F used to sell this book. This book is in the words of the people that explored Arizona, There were no elk in Arizona at that time except the Merrians elk in the white mountains where there was year round live water.. The party that crossed the Coconino plateau first almost starved no water no wildlife, finally they did find a Grizzly on Mt Hope and killed him for food. the development of stock tanks by ranchers in the late 1800's until present times expanded the wildlife range immensely, many of the ranchers i know leave there waters on for wildlife even if they do not have cattle in those pastures at different times of the year.

The landowner does not own the game animal but they do supply water and browse and grazing for wildlife, water is the key, most of the units in northern Az especially the coconino plateau was devoid of water and wildlife in the 1800's until the ranching ventures developed waters for livestock, early explorers verify that.

The landowner does own the game animal but they do supply water and browse and grazing for wildlife, water is the key, most of the units in northern Az especially the coconino plateau was devoid of water and wildlife in the 1800's until the ranching ventures developed waters for livestock, early explorers verify that.

that has nothing to do with the topic being discussed

if you were the private landowner, and in most cases, it is ranches, mostly in northwest Arizona. What would you do.

PCSO has two range deputy's. They are very helpful in enforcing state land rules

The Land dept has a few trespress officers, very few. G&F are supposed to enforce the OHV rules, they try but they are outnumbered by the ohv people

I don't believe the pop man hunts were on public land, the boundry was all north of the forest service

The land dept does not get any money from hunting license sales. It was a decision made years ago by Bob Corbin Arizona attorney general at that time

Before everyone starts in on the trust land being non public land, which it is. Arizona is lucky your allowed to hunt it, most states like new mexico the game commission has to pay the trust land department a yearly fee for hunters to access the state trust land

These ranches are either checkerboarded private or az state trust land, which is not public land. There is some blocked up private land in places also