TexasHunter

Congrats Jim great bucks.

Well my friend from Yuma came down to hunt with me this year. We hunted the unit and area where we had seen some decent deer in before. Well it looked like it was going to be a good hunt when I pulled into camp there was a forkie on the hillside right behind camp. Well day one found us on a hillside and finding doe after doe. We must have seen 50 doe the first morning/afternoon but not buck one. Well after we saw all seeing all the doe we figure we are in a good spot there cant be that many doe with out a few bucks. Side note my friend doesnt care the size as long as it went in the freezer. Well day two we got back into the same area and again we are seeing a ton of doe but no bucks. At this point we are getting a little frustrated so we decide to change where we are at so we jump in the truck and I decide we should go lower and see if we can find them in the rolling hills. So much for that idea didnt see anything alive out there. Well the next morning we dicide to go higher up and see what we can find. I find this perfect canyon that looks really good so we decide to go in and glass. well after an hour or so we started to see deer ( all does again ). All of a sudden I notice a deer right next to My buddy. I tell him right next to you. Well turns out another doe. Well as we sit at this spot I keep hearing something behind us. I tell my friend go check it out. Two seconds later a shot rang out and then another and another. He unloaded a whole clip on the deer. So I go to the other side of the hil "did ya get him" "I dont know" he responds. Well where did ya shot I dont know. Did he fall ya so you hit him where did you hit him I dont know. I find blood and decide we should wait a while before going after him so we relaxed for a bit and then went after him. We eventually bust him out of his bed when my friend starts flinging bullets at him again( another clip) as we watch him go over another ridge. At this point hte deer looks like he his headed tword the road so I tell Sam go get the truck take it to the road and we will meet in the middle. So I go to the top of the ridge to see if I can glass the deer up in his bed and seal the deal. Before I sat down I had to pee so as I start to pee Ilook to my side and to my amazement the deer is bedded 5 yards next to me looking at me like does he see me? Well I peed all over my self trying to get back far enough to shot him without the deer taking off. Needles to say he was dead. it was a little forkie but my friend was excited. He had hit the deer in the hind quarter with his shot. Sorry for the long read I will post picks later.

Here are the pics

He was so embaressed for me he died instantly

He was on a monopod for the second shots I didnt see him take the first. He just gets buck fever really bad and cant calm himself down. I have been taget shooting with him and he is a great shot without a deer in front of him.

Looks like a great buck good luck.

You have no idea 2 years ago we had two nice 3 bys opening morning 250 yards away and he missed 4 times and then when we got on them again he missed 3 times. It was his first whitetail hunt so I wasnt going to shoot until he got one. Needles to say I was mad at him.

Let's remember that several of the forum members are kids! Mark Sorry couldnt resist.

Dont they say 90 % of men MASTER BAIT and the other 10% just lie about it.

Thats exactly what I was thinking. Im like wait did I miss my hunt was i in a coma or something. Whats going on here.

Was up there a couple weeks ago looking at some new area. Didnt see any bucks but saw a bunch of doe. I have the November hunt. If you want to go scouting together sometime and pool our resources let me know.

Lots of people on here think there is some antisipation!!!

I did a reaserch paper on this topic last semester and most citys and states that have photo radar and red light cameras where cases have been taken to court have had the system deemed illeagel or uncostitutional. Most states had contracts with the companies that where agianst laws that where on that states books. If you need to fight it I have tons of reaserch that you could use in court.

No it is not

Well they need a spell check on this forum! And to think I got in A in my writing classes I am not looking to soley rule the AZGFD just for it to be "fair" to all. When they raise tags to a point which most hunters cant afford them that is not right. Look the reason the other side has more clout is because we for so long have let them. We kept to ourselfs for the most part except for major issues. They on the other hand have been fighting toth and nail. Imagine if we accually fought back. As for your articles the ones I read were ussually hidden in the back of the citizen. When the other side puts out its "propaganda" its front and center all over the news. The fact is our propaganda is directed at people who are already hunters, we cant get to many recruits from that. I recently took my new girlfriend and her son on a hunt in Texas. They had never been. Both are now hooked. We need to stop making ourselfs look like right wing skinhead radiccals and more like the compasionate people we are. I am not saying we are skinheads but that is the perception and perception is reality. There are a lot more people who would be sympathetic to our cause if it was presented differently. More tags means the possobility of more hunters yes but the logic to price them so far out of reach that most can not afford them means less hunters. If Joe Shmoe cant afford to take his kids hunting they in turn will not become hunters themselves. Then we loose not only Joe but his children and their children as well. I understand that there are other sources of revenue out there for AZGFD but I do not believe it would be as lucrative as what they recieve from hunters. I am not sure of the numbers but think one hunter who draws an elk tag pays for his tag, license, app fee, fee to enter the land usually, camping permit, fire permit, gas to drive there and back, maybe a hotel, hunting supplies, ammo, topo maps, extra food for camping, and so on. It is a pretty segnifigant economic boost and I find it hard to believe that our government doesnt realize that. I also doubt if the other sources of revenue are going to provide the state with alternatives for stimulating the economy like we do. We have more clout and barganing power then most relize we just have to use it to our advantage.

This is exactly what I mean great post.

e·lit·ism or é·lit·ism (-ltzm, -l-) n. 1. The belief that certain persons or members of certain classes or groups deserve favored treatment by virtue of their perceived superiority, as in intellect, social status, or financial resources. 2. a. The sense of entitlement enjoyed by such a group or class. b. Control, rule, or domination by such a group or class. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Incase you were not sure what it meant. Lets not pretend that your smug retort to my original post was not meant to belittle or ostrisize me in any way, it may not have been acerbic but.... You are correct boycotts do not threaten the employees of government agencies rather the government who places those employees into thier respected positions. Boycotts and public outcry is the basis of our government."Any people anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up, and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable - a most sacred right ...." Abraham Lincoln. The reason more people are simpathetic to the anti hunters and greens cause is because they are the loudest, they protest everthing, even things I as a hunter would protest ,such as Mike Vick. We must be willing to do just as much as they are to protect our cause and appathy is not going to help. So I ask, are you happy with what you believe is coming? I dont think you are and I know I sure aint. So what do we do about it? Complain on a forum? Right some letters to our reps? If we want to be heard as loud as opposition we must yell as loud as them. We need not worry about recriutment rather stop waisting time fighting against each other and band together to fight for our cause. Make no mistake about why tags are increasing. It has little to do with increasing reveneu and a lot to do with dwindelling the number of hunters down as to make the fight agianst hunters easier.Why do you think they hold the meetings at the same time as banquets or oppening days? They want to limit the amount of access we have to publicly voice our opinions. Can't you read between the lines of what is going on? Limited ammo production and sales. Preposed tax increases on wepons ammo and hunting permits. They are trying to push us out of our "HOBBY", because no matter how obsessed you are with a hobby its still a hobby, of weapons ,hunting and such. That means the end result will be the end of AZGFD as a tool for wildlife management any way. Would you not rather fight to rectify the situation. Don't mistake my age for naivety I understand that what government angencies do best is survive and expand. So what must we do? Threaten the means as to wich that agency has grown accustom to using for survival. The benifit from being loyal to an agency is only reaped when you use it to your advantage, like when questioning said agency. If you dont you are just one of the people they are after. Willing to go with the satus quo and pay whatever they ask. A tool so to speak. I feel no need to sign any post as it says who wrote the post on the left of the page, but apparently that makes the post more relevent and less offensive if you do. As for little info in my profile I didn't know this was a dating service. What would you like to know. I am a 27 year old mechanic born in the hill country in Texas moved to Tucson when my parents divorced. I run a small buisness and am in school to finish what I should have done right after highschool. I have been hunting and fishing since I was in diapers. I am six foot two two hundred pounds and a Libra. I have shot 2 coues deer none of wich are big and helped a friend shoot one that was also small. I try and go out hunting or fishing every weekend. Rick

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This is the exact elitist attitude that will ruin this country. The reason our gorvernment is so screwed up is because we as citizens are to lazy, uneducated and frankly selfish to stand up to what they do. They know they will get away with pretty much whatever they want because as citezens we stand by and let them rape our rights, squander our tax money and pretty much run this country into the ground. They do all this as we sit by and say well I can still afford it or I am to old to see the benefits of change or even what can I really do . If I am going to organize a boycot I surely wouldnt want to steal what good days you have left waisting time trying to make a difference for future generations. Besides how much help can a washed up marketing exec who "knows" economics because he took a couple classes once fifty years provide any way. O by the way to the "it is going to hurt us on a fixed income the most" statement. When is the last time you whent hunting without a guide. Wish I had a "fixed" income. Sorry if I offended anyone but I hate nothing more then sarcasem when it comes to the future of not only our favorite hobby but our great nation.

We have control of this. If we as hunters stood together and boycoted the AZGFD by not getting licsences and applying for tags they would loose capital and have to CHANGE the way they are trying to do buisness. I know it would suck but just support another state such as New Mexico or even hunt mexico. The only way to get it accross to them ( Burocrats ) that we wont be looked at as dollar sighns is to hit them where it hurts the pocket book. I for one, when and if the fees for an instate tag hit that high, will not hunt fish or other in AZ any more.

call me I am in tucson but we can work something out. 520 275 4733

Well I went to my cousins place in the hill country in Texas and was lucky enough to harvest a 32 inch axis buck. Didnt think I was going to get him when I saw him in the morning he was teasing me ten yards away but on the other side of the fence. Well patience paid of 5 kours later he stepped out on my side of the fence one shot in the shoulder and he was down.

Salt or Fresh

They are really cool looking thanks.

I can get all the rugs I want my cousin has a ton of hides. His hair was actually all torn off on one side so It wouldnt have made a good mount. I am just doing a euro mount on him.