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There have been a couple recent posts regarding bullet/caliber choices that I found interesting but didn't see a particular aspect discussed that I was interested in. Not wanting to hijack those threads I started this one. With all the interest in longrange shooting there's tons of discussion on what makes a good long range rifle(mainly accurate) and what makes a good long range cartridge(Fast/Flat). However,I haven't seen discussion on what makes a good long range bullet. There are many outstanding bullets that have been discussed such as the entire Nosler line, Barnes TSX/TTSX, Berger and Seirra bullets. When looking at the specifications for these bullets most have a published Minimum velocity for proper expansion and optimal performance. In many of the long range success stories, what I'm seeing is that in many reports animials are being taken at ranges where the resulting velocity is well below the published minumum velocity for proper expansion. For example, the 6.5x284 norma is gaining in popularity in the long range hunting world so much so a noted custom gun maker is manufacturing a special limited edition run of rifles. Now the 6.5/.264 is widely recognized as an outstanding long range caliber for the excellent BC bullets offered in this caliber. However, does it lose it's long range effectiveness when matched the wrong bullet? For example, lets say you take the 6.5/.264 Nosler AB 140gr bullet that has a .509 BC and a sectional density better than a 180gr .308 and pair it with the 6.5x284, do you still have an effective long range setup? The muzzle velocity for this combination is in the range of 2900ft/s so after 600yards (which is definitely long range shooting) the velocity has dropped below the minimum velocity the bullets needs for proper expansion. So, are these published minumums really something to be concerned with? How important is it to match gun/caliber/cartridge and bullet minimum velocity to the intended distance one expect to shoot? Are there bullets that have a wider range of velocities they are effective at? How do/did you go about selecting your long range bullet?

Great info/insight. Thanks for sharing.

I'm considering selling my Jeep. I purchsed it new in 1992 so it's been in the family a very long time. I'm not really sure what it's value is as my research has resulted in a pretty wide range. I know what it's worth to me but that doesn't really matter too much. If you have any interest PM me your contact info and we can talk about it or e-mail me . Details 1992 Cherokee Sport 4x4 with 4.0 ltr engine - Runs really solid - these are great engines. 115K miles - (miles are accurate. For a very long time I only lived 1 mile from work.) 3" Rancho Lift Standard 5 spd transmission Roof Rack New Spare tire Pre installed CWT.com sticker She is a litle rough as she's been exclusively used as my hunting vehicle for the last 10 to 12 years. She's got me anywhere I've wanted to go and a few places I probably shouldn't have been. Thanks for looking

http://www.chuckhawks.com/6-5-284_6-5RemMag.htm I found this write-up intersting...you might too.

For you .270 fans: grain for grain, how does the recoil compare to the .30-06? http://kwk.us/recoil.html if you're that concerned with recoil her is an application that you can enter different calibers, bullet weights, velocities and info about your gun of choice and compare recoil levels.

Justo - nice to see pictures of your ranch again. I hope you and your family are all doing well. Here's a couple more pics that I took when I hunted the ranch a few years ago. Amazing place and wonderful people. Welcome to the best site on the web.

Harry Lawson's shop (520) 326-1117 Joe Reid at the shop did a trigger job on one of my rifles and I've been very pleased with it.

Make sure you don't hand them over unless the buck is worthy of a December tag. Casey - get out there and best your best....look forward to your new sign-on ....lastcoueswas110.

Great buck! Great character! Congrats Brian!!

For some reason Byrnes gets credit for Miller but it was Livengood hired Miller. It wasn't a very good hiring process but it was Livengood that hired Miller. Rich Rod will do a good job and be gone to a bigger program in less than 5 years.

Well the holiday season is upon us and last night marked the beginning of one of the more torturous traditions….my wife wanting to know what I want for Christmas. In an attempt to come up with some ideas for her I thought searching some old threads may give me some ideas. I came across a thread introducing Red Rabbit’s far too pretty to hunt with custom 6.5 WSM. http://forums.coueswhitetail.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=5160&st=0&p=55461&hl=fit4duty&fromsearch=1&&do=findComment&comment=55461 In the thread there were some members who were starting projects based on the same round and a few other threads that I came across where members were considering different variants of the 6.5mm/.264 for their custom projects? This search didn’t help with its intended purpose of finding Christmas ideas for the wife but it did make me curious…What happened with the custom projects? Did they get finished? What kind of results were achieved What kinds of Groups/velocity/trophies are they getting? Pictures would be great.

It's my understanding that if its the parent transfering the tag the parent doing the transfer has to be in the field with the child. If it is the grand parent there's no requirement for them to be in the field with the child.

Great Buck Chris!!! You Definitely put in the work for him. Love how he carries the mass. Congrats on a very well earned trophy...nice story too.

16 Total 4 in the gun 4 on my sling 8 in my pack in a small folding ammo carrier

I hear they are also crossing Bulldogs with Shih Tzu's. You can guess what they call those....they are really valuable.

Nets are for fisherman...at least that's what I've been told by people on this site.

Congrats on an awesome trophy. Based on the picture looking down into the valley you had to be part Billy just to get up to him. Thanks for sharing.

I completed a summary of my hunt but lost it due to a fatal error when I tried to upload a picture. D'oh #1 Don't have time to re-write my story so long story short....D'oh #2 I shot the wrong buck. Still couldn't be happier with the buck I took given the conditions. In brief, this if the first hunt that I couldn't wait to get home from not becuase it wasn't fun or that it was too hard I just had this little buck to get home to. Who knew how great baby sing-a-long songs are to hike to. One little, two little, three little ......

Next time you say there are no more deer left in that unit I'm going to believe you. You and the family took them all out. Congrats to the entire family!!

This buck measured 89" The other buck I believe was just a little bit bigger than the one in my avatar so mid to upper 90's but it had a broken eye gaurd. Both are really nice bucks I'll just have to go get the other one next year.

Was all in the lost story... 25'06, 115 BT, 258 yards Shot was a bit low and about 2" forward. Took out both upper front legs and both lungs...almost no wasted meat.

Great Buck two years in a row. It's really rewarding to have found him during a scouting trip, relocate him during the hunt, have to back out on him, find him again the next day and then finally put him in the freezer. A very rewarding experience - I was blessed to be part of it. Can't wait to see the double pedestal mount - you can call it bros or at least Cousins. Congrats.

Happy belated. Out in the field so missed the actual day. Glad to hear you had a good one.