Str8Shot

My use of a trail cam is not just to pattern game, or to "pick out" the one I will be after... I am an outdoorsman first and foremost, not just a hunter. I love wildlife and I love to see whats out there. I use the trail cam just as much to get photos of wildlife. You never know what kind of photos you will get, and that's what most of us love about it. You hear people talk about how setting cams is "addicting". If it wasnt enjoyable, it wouldn't get addicting. I am soooooo tired of people regulating my fun just because you don't share my same enjoyment. Just stop already. We know you disagree with the use. Don't use them then and leave me alone. You should run for congress, you would fit right in. Man people are so funny ..... First and foremost any guy on this site that uses one, bought and used their first trail cam to try to enhance his chances of a successful hunt PERIOD ...... If you say otherwise your straight up lying..... Are the pics cool.... yes ... is it addicting most likely, but a big part of your addiction comes from the fact you will try harvesting what you see .... If it was about the photos you would spend weeks in ground blinds with Much better photo gear taking pictures .... Sorry I am old school on Hunting and don't agree with Baiting and trail cams , but just as you can spew your opinions I am free to mine .... You can spin it anyway you want it so you feel good about how you HARVEST a specific game but If they took Away our rights to hunt on Public Lands you would not waste the Time and $$$$$$ to put out a trail cam , And the fact that your an a s s and make a comment about me fitting in when it comes to congress proves you assume to much about people that have a different opinion than you .... People like you that make stupid comments are the ignorant ones period ..... I am a hunter and could care less about trail cams let them take the things away I will still hunt .... question is will you ????

severed heads on Pikes every 30 yards or so would save a lot of Revenue over building a barrier

Wow you pull up some bullet points dating way back to when Arizona became part of the US ..... Funny thing is we are not living in that past .... WHy don't you pull up some stats and put up the posts of how much Illegal ALiens cost us each year .... Medical... food programs because they got laid or dropped this side of the border.... Cost of upkeeping our lands around the border for state ... feds ... and the Persoanl costs to ranchers ... the cost of crimes ... courts ... prisons and detention centers .... deportation process .... Loss of consumer goods along the etire length of the border where shipments are robbed almost daily ..... (we won't even talk about the jobs and wages ) ..... Like I said you are in a heaven of Bliss as ignorant as the furthest left socialist loser ...... plenty of asians (chinese,thai, korean,) plenty of europeans and canadians all are subject to the same laws and have been sent home when caught here illegally ..... Here is a Hypothetical for you ..... 10,000 people locked in a stadium 2,000 caucasian , 3,000 asian , 2,000 African American, 1,500 Native american and 1,500 middle eastern ....... 1 caucasian has a bomb that will destroy all .... Do you think that any one caucasian who does not have it will care to be searched and singled out ..... DO you think any other race will cry racisim and say it is not fair to serch the caucasians.... I don't think so .... this is about getting the law breaker out of the mix period .... quit your crying and move to another country I am sure it will be better for you

Your Grandparents !!!! To try to compare the dynamics of today's illegal immigrant issues to those of the early to mid 1900's is absurd .... The immigration laws were different as were the Naturalization laws .... It is to easy to make this a race issue when the fact is that there are legal methods of entering a country and also becoming a citizen .... Go visit Mexico or almost any other country and try to say we as people do not profile everyday and not just by skin color ..... These Illegals should be happy they are not crossing the border into North Korea !!!! Someone in your family had the smarts long ago to abide by the law .... So you should not dishonor them by supporting those who choose not to ..... Ignorance is Bliss and you Jaime are floating on cloud nine Full of BLISS

The answer to our Border Issues is FRIGGIN DEER WITH LASERS and sophisticated tracking for IA's ... Now on a serious note I have many Hispanic friends that have just as much passion against the issues with IA's as any other and none feel it is a big deal to have to prove your citizenship for any reason .... The ones that seem to have issues are the people who have utilized the process of getting relatives here over the past years (know a couple of them too) .... We as a people have suffered way more inconveniences in the last decades for upholding laws ..... and some guy asking for your DL or state ID or papers to prove you are not breaking the law and here as an illegal is no big deal .... They need to be tougher on everything including the organizations that enable the activity itself ... The Samaritans and others putting out food and water stashes should be stopped ..... I would not doubt that several of these groups are funded by the drug and coyote trades and just set up as non profit humanitarian outfits to distract who they are really helping ....

oh and if you think things out how many weeks of the year in AZ is there not a commissioned hunt going on in many units ... it is not species specific but even if it was then No cams for elk Majority of the year due to OTC tags and none in the field open of archery season .... Sounds like a winner to me ......

Having a trail cam pic taken four minutes before a Kill shot is during the hunting season ...... I guess I should have been more specific .... but glad to know you read the law as I did ..... Keep up the Hard work

Man I hope we go the Way of Montana and just outlaw The use of trail cameras .....

Wow .... Looks like they got things right up there .... NO BAIting and No Trail Cams.... Sounds Like HUNTING to me

WOW NIce load .... how did he do at Rosey last week seen the truck park down at schoolhouse boat ramp

+1.. Well Said!!! There is no other!! Real men add salt to the fat and eat it too! LOL both you and yes often Sea Salt and pepper does just fine but sometimes it is good to mix things up and the Key to my Marinade is So Co ... (Southern Comfort for those wondering ) and from Steaks to Ribs makes a some heck of good eating..... Oh and while on the topic Give me Venison back Strap over any Beef Cut

Ribeyes with at least 24 hours in the right Marinade and all that sweet marbling melts away an makes the sweetest most tender BEST grilled steak there is ..... The trick is using the right ingredient in your marinade The same goes for those RIBS

Those steaks look mighty mouth watering and for those guys who want to talk about the quality of beer ... Go to Bevmo or the other big Wine store and pick some of that Chimay up ... One heck of a good Ale

Yeah and I just got through as well and the message said ...... Due to unforeseen circumstances The 2010 Elk and Antelope Hunt's have been canceled .... All Payments will be refunded no later than April 26th .... Thank you for your patience and understanding

Trust me, you don't want to be in that 3c area Yet anyways .....

The only way it would be illegal would be if it is not a Tribal member being they are stating they are lion kills from the rez .... Sheds, and pick-ups are not permitted on the WMAT for non tribal members .... Not completely sure How the Tribe responds to members selling sheds or pick-ups but know for sure it is a no no for non members and these posts clearly state they are from the WMAT though they post them WMAIR

I took back up archery last year and will after a couple years be putting in for the archery elk over rifle but come on I am sick of the issues with the dates and archers .... you have two weeks to get it done and pre rut can be just as productive as prime rut .... fewer issues with cows busting you and still plenty of activity .... But after hearing year after year on these forums archers feeling they deserve it better than the rest I say give it to them but only give them 1 week to get it done and add a second 1 week hunt for more archery tags or rifle tags ... I think the data shows the date has little to do with overall success (may not have been as easy but the hunters got it done) .... temps are only 3 - 7 degrees average lower on the highs and not many consecutive nights below the high 30's even at the end of September.... Don't put in if you don't like it ....I am sure many people waiting years to even get drawn the first time would be happy to take your place no matter the date ... BUT MAN CAN ALL THE ARCHERS QUIT CRYING ABOUT IT .... Go hunt ... hunt hard and enjoy the experience Seems like what you all want is 1 week in the peak of the pre rut flowing into early rut to scout and nail down patterns then two weeks to pick and choose ..... and at the same time want better draw odds and no loss of tags to archers, guess while we are at it we can find you some ocean side property in Arizona !

Very cool .... I have seen big bass take hooked fish a couple times as they were being reeled in and a few months ago watched one try to choke one down in the Tank at BASS Pro but it was too big and was killing it ... the workers spent a good amount of time fishing them out from above always cool to see mother nature at work .... thanks for sharing

Guess I was right on the caliber but guess in the pic the barrel length seemed a little long in proportion to your hand even looks longer than the 15 in TC's .... Like I said was not sure and thought I would ask the ones who may know .... pretty slick gun none the less ... So if it is sold and registered as a pistol it is a legal hand gun to hunt with right? So I would take it that with a 10.5 " barrel technically it is not legal to put a Buttstock on it ?

Anyway to get to see some pics?

I may be off here.... But I did not realize that a tactical with about 16 inches of barrel and looking to be a .223 with the butt stock removed fit into the legal definition of HAND GUN ... I have a Ruger Ranch gun in .223 that breaks down the same way that I would like to use on H.A.M hunts if it does ... anyone here know for sure ????

AZbowhntr you don't need to have a bunch of cables running on the exterior of the house depending on the age of the house... Majority of homes built in the last 10 years use RG6 cable to the utility outside the house and with the use of a multi-switch you can run all the feeds in the house for multiple receivers using the pre-installed runs that run through the house just replace the switch in the cable utility(if it is not a newer switch from cox) and the dish runs to the box outside the home and there are many ways (none that will be included in a free hookup) to make sure cables are not seen .... In the early days the quality of installs and what techs would do with the installs was much better than today but there are ways .... In older homes with runs of rg45 the low dc voltage that controls the LNB in the dish does not travel well and in long runs will not usually work so in those cases fishing new lines or exterior wall punches are the choices you have and most do not want to go through the cost or hassle of fishing lines...

thanks for clearing up my confusion .... probably a combination of that and losing any hard pack that was frozen beneath making you sink a little deeper .... never a fun situation to be in and hopefully you get it out soon

I guess I am confused .... how deep was the snow on the road it sounds like you were digging into the thawed soil of the road and not the snow and if that is the case I would question using chains at all if you have good Tires .... several roads like the upper 300 have very little aggregate to keep them from becoming nothing but a bog as rain and sun melts the snow and ground and if you are using chains you speed up the process while at the same time digging in deeper not a good thing for you or the road ..... I am not a big fan of using chains on any wet thawing forest road especially ones that have little holding them together... Frozen vs thawed is why you got in that mess and depending on how much thawing and how deep with the new cuts from tires and chains it can take several freezing nights to freeze that soil deep enough to get it back to the way it was when you drove in .... Oh one other thing you need to think of is how heavy is your vehicle ..... those bigger trucks with all that weight dig in much easier than something like a jeep

The glaciers have been shrinking since the last ice age this land we live in is the product of melted glaciers and there is just as much scientific data showing that world wide we are on a cooling trend .... the science can be manipulated to try to support ones opinion and MAN is just VAIN enough to think that He can have control over the natural processes that have been going since the beginning of time ..... It does not matter what we do... things in mother nature are going to happen and this planet will far outlive our Human race .... We should take care of this planet in the way we would our own homes so we do not live in a wasteland that litters the natural beauty all around us ... but the propaganda of the Green Movement is about $$$$$$$$$ not Saving this earth ..... I am not against doing the right things for the right reasons but until we stop importing 70 percent of consumer goods from other countries such as China or outlawing plastic man made containers I will not buy into this joke of a movement ..... Like I say ADAPT OR DIE !!!!!! I hope it something comes and thins our masses and the strongest that know how to use the land and take care of what mother nature has to offer are here to survive.... You are correct - things in mother nature will happen without man's influence. But, there is no way anyone can deny the negative affect man has had on nature. The Green Movement was started over 40 years ago to shed some light on these issues - not raise money for their own agenda. I admit that some organizations have gotten out of control - but, neither you nor I have to support them. The bottom line is - awareness had to be raised. There are so many Americans who don't give a crap about nature and this was the reason for the Green Movement. BTW, lowering our use of plastic is one way to lower our reliance on other countries - less plastic means we need less oil to make the plastic........and yes, glaciers have been melting for years, but like I respoded to AC Guy, things are a little different now then they were 200 years ago. The green Movement from the time the very first grants were handed out over 40 years ago to do the earliest studies has been multiplying their revenues at the cost of taxpayers ever since, and in the last 20 years faster than any other business model out there with majority of revenue coming from tax payers pockets ... According to the earliest research and scientist we should not be around today but we are.... And over the last 30 years the strictest GREEN legislation in the world has cost Americans far more than tax dollars.. We also Lost that which made us THE world leader ... Our Industry ... Our innovation ... and our Jobs... Our government Opened doors and through backwards economics made it not only necessary but down right inviting for our Company's to move abroad where they had no environmental Laws... No Labor laws... No unions and Low cost of manufacturing.... a process that only worked because of new import laws with lack of taxes or tariffs ..... They created a new America of Consumers of world products and ignored the fact that China, Japan and Mexico ect. All share the same Atmosphere as us and who even today barely have in place environmental laws that make any impact at all... We have had the technology for decades with filters and scrubbers to minimize pollutants in our emissions in our factory's but at a cost that was unforgiving to major companies SO why do it .... I could keep going but I know that for way to many it is to hard to understand how one little thing can have such large negative impacts over the course of time.... We need to start fixing the things that are broken and costing so many their way of life TODAY AND NOW !!! and the answer is not in a possible epidemic 1000 + years away