Str8Shot

where you headed out from ? If in the Mesa Area ... hitting liars corner in east mesa may be the only thing ... The couple other places in the Globe/Miami area we used as back-ups to Kilmer's have not been selling for a while. The Tonto Basin side of Roosevelt has a few places ... We Use the store at Jake's corner or Butcher Hook Bait shop ... Also on the East Side of the lake You can get bait at the Boat repair Next to the Store.... I know those may be a bit out of the way ... But kilmer's was always the go to place on that side , unfortunately they have been going down hill the last few years.

I can check when I get home the brand , but been using a green submersible for the 10 years that was about 50 bucks .... Always been able to bring in the shad and the fish that follow ...

Now why would they give you all on one, if they can get you to buy both?

You think your head hurts now? Wait till he makes premier status.. LOL.... not in any rush like so many other guys are ... Oh look there is one more post ! Hope your scope gets in soon !

Yeah I was going to say the burn rate is the big thing.. great for those lighter bullets but want to slow it down for the heavier ones ... I would agree on 4831 but more often Use 4350 on 300 win mag and Ultra mag ... here is a couple links that may help ... http://www.imrpowder.com/data/rifle/300winmag-2005apr03.php http://www.imrpowder.com/data/general/burnchart.php https://books.google.com/books?id=bEnpgMbBFv0C&pg=PA31&lpg=PA31&dq=case+pressure+fast+burning+powder+vs+slow&source=bl&ots=HlDJ8FG3TJ&sig=sfs_LjVAJu0Ulg91f2huU39rZuo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=j_ZcVanrBc-KuASwxYHIBg&ved=0CEgQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=case%20pressure%20fast%20burning%20powder%20vs%20slow&f=false

Great glass at a great price, but as some already mentioned a lot of places cleared them out NEW at 899 if they are the VT-K15 part number .... if they are the newer KAI -5602 part number then your price should be fine .... Good Luck

once was a cop, and your posting laws that are legit. Tell me the the qualifications of the operator. I have never heard a straight answer on that, and have asked several times. Most utvs have a plate that starts with mc "motorcycle" technichally you need an mc license. I have asked numerous lio this question, but they dont know sh$. I have the mc license , so im covered . Other guys may get fined. Let us know. OTHER OHV REGULATIONS DRIVERS LICENSE -A valid driver’s license is required on city, county, and state roads and highways as well as some Forest Service roads and BLM-maintained roadways. The laws are out there and your best resource is here! http://azgfdportal.az.gov/PortalImages/files/OHV/atv_brochure.pdf

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28-964. Motorcycles; all-terrain vehicles; motor driven cycles; equipment; exception; prohibition A. An operator or passenger of a motorcycle, all-terrain vehicle or motor driven cycle who is under eighteen years of age shall wear at all times a protective helmet on the operator's or passenger's head in an appropriate manner. The protective helmet shall be safely secured while the operator or passenger is operating or riding on the motorcycle, all-terrain vehicle or motor driven cycle. An operator of a motorcycle, all-terrain vehicle or motor driven cycle shall wear at all times protective glasses, goggles or a transparent face shield of a type approved by the director unless the motorcycle, all-terrain vehicle or motor driven cycle is equipped with a protective windshield. This subsection does not apply to electrically powered three wheeled vehicles or three wheeled vehicles on which the operator and passenger ride within an enclosed cab. B. A motorcycle, all-terrain vehicle and motor driven cycle shall be equipped with a rearview mirror, seat and footrests for the operator. A motorcycle, all-terrain vehicle or motor driven cycle operated with a passenger shall be equipped with a seat, footrests and handrails for the passenger. C. A person shall not operate a motorcycle, all-terrain vehicle or motor driven cycle equipped with handlebars that are positioned so that the hands of the operator are above the operator's shoulder height when the operator is sitting astride the seat and the operator's hands are on the handlebar grips.

had some friends go 2 for 3 on the SCAR... said they were into a lot of birds at least compared to last year where they went 1 for 3 ...

I hear that someone filed an Order of Protection on behalf of all ELk in 6a against All Hunters .... Now what you all going to do

Someone have a GIF of a woman kicking a man when he is down ... Because resurrecting this thread goes way beyond kicking a dead horse !

As most know ... I am not an advocate of using Game Cams ( mainly when used with baiting always being my main issue) However I am always willing to help my fellow hunters try and save some $$$$ in these times. Not sure how good these units are but they are 72% off ... https://www.choxi.com/daily_deals/view/2893286-pyle_water_resistant_motion_activated_night_vision_wild_game_scouting_camera

lol... well at least you"re locked into next year ... I am assuming he had quiet a few less than you did then .... and I am thinking the title should be Almost Blew It ... cause getting drawn for a lesser quality draw with a buddy IMO would have been blowing it !

I assume you haven't hunted 3c? The deer in 3c don't rut till December every year. Long after the October hunts. The strip bucks don't even start rutting til November and that's early for AZ. I have hunted and assisted in 3c a lot for both Elk and Deer .... and spent a lot of time up there in November ... The rut may not be in full swing in early and mid November but on the years with early freezes Pre Rut patterns in mule deer do happen in early to mid November .... I Have not hunted Deer there in the last 4 years and forgot it has become more late OCT than that first week of November like it once was... But I have always considered those pre-rut behaviors as the beginning ... The swelling , the challenging , Bachelor Herds getting smaller with the bigger bucks starting to get more active and aggressive. The rut may not be in full swing until late November and December, but I have been on several deer Hunts in early November where they are starting those pre-rut patterns. Might be one of the reasons the last 4 years it keeps opening earlier and earlier

I would not shy away from 23 or 3c ... Have seen plenty that go over 180" in both and as in most units in this state the potential for a book Buck exists .... as far as the Rut Most years The date of the 3C hunt puts you in the beginning of their Rut ... Some seem to forget that the upper plateau Bucks rut A bit earlier .... remember the 3c hunt is any antlered and though you don't see many I have seen a few Couse that would make any of us on this forum drop our jaws and drool like a kid in a candy store and they were on the the white mans side of the fence.

Awesome catch !

lots of Birds in 23 .... I know several were taken but locations vary quiet a bit throughout the unit ... When they go silent you just have to work harder ... Good Luck to any going back out !

were they too big or small? ... or maybe a bit worn out from all the action they have seen ?

So to be clear ... You are not French and this is not you ? Last I heard there was about 100k being offered to give this guy up ... wonder if he is still out there kicking squirrels ? https://youtu.be/SIXGEj9nwLw

I am just worried they may start closing off parts of 36b where that Chupacabra has been sighted ....

Gave my cousin some spots while he was in 23 last weekend and pretty much the same as he said, they did get into birds a couple times and had them coming in , just not close enough to put a shot on one.

Does not get much better than that ... nice bird and great write up .. Congrats to Jaycie and at this rate she is well on her way to a Royal !

minus about 4 years ago when it was freezing and wet that entire late Oct. hunt .... 36b always pays off best , like pretty much any other unit, when you get out there away from the roads and get a little rougher and remote... Still if I am going to hunt in November it is going to be that late hunt ....

It has been my experience out with guys much better at turkey hunting than myself.... that when they start hanging up to draw away from them a little and soften the call .... Of course works best when the shooter can stay put and have a buddy calling for him or her.... Some of these big time turkey hunters say more times than not hunters, over call especially when they have a hot bird that has responded a couple times... some times you have to hold off and wait, they say , if the have responded a couple times they know where they are headed.