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That is going to be a heavy rifle. You should decide what parameters you want before diving into this. I think you can do it with a 300 RUM as well. TAM had one built recently with an ABS barrel and it is a tack driver. Shoots 210 JLKs. Shot a 1000 yd group that would make for a 1000 yd BR rifle. I think it is pretty light too. There is a lot of good technology out there and I bet he didn't spend $5000 on it either. The ABS barrel will add about $500 to the price of the rifle so I am thinking you can get one for about $2500 + scope. Probably come out with a total package weighing under 8.5# that shoots like a million bucks. Personally, if I went any bigger than a 300 mag, I would go to a Chey-tac based case such as the 375 or 338 versions. I think it is not needed for 1000 yds though. If you want to shoot elk at 1500 yds, it would be the way to go. I have a custom 340 Wby for the real long stuff but it has a 12 twist barrel and won't shoot the 300s. To get the best utility out of a 338 Edge or snipe-tac you really need a 30" barrel. I needed something more portable than that!

I'll take the tree stands and paraphernalia. I PM with no response yet.

My latest creation is a Phoenix Machine/Defiance Machine full round action with long barrel tenon, Mark Chanlynn 1-8.5" twist chambered in 6.5-284. The reamer is ground to my specs to use 130 Norma Diamond Line bullets and 130 Bergers if needed. Bullets are seated out as it is a long action. Has Williams bottom metal, McMillan Remington "Hunter" pattern stock. It is pillar bedded with stainless steel pillars and Devcon. Scope rail is Seekins Precision 20 MOA which is bedded and glued to the action and set up with 8-40 screws instead of the typical 6-48s. Rings are Leupold Weaver style. Scope is Bushnell 4.5-30 6500 Elite series. If I did it over, I would have gone with an ADL style trigger guard in lieu of the Williams bottom metal and permanently attached a Bogen tripod adapter plate for my 701HDV tripod head so I could eliminate the gun claw. If I could have found an action that would cycle the WSMs to my liking, I would have built a 7mmWSM and shot 180 Bergers. I couldn't find anything that satisfied my reliability needs for feeding in a custom action. There may be one now though. Both of these are barrel burners but who cares. When it wears out, I will put a new one on! Here is a photo that shows it before metal finish.

Lark, you are obviously one of the best shooters in the entire world and have the most accurate rifles ever crafted. I can't believe I overlooked you name in the match reports the past 30 years. Wow- just think how many Wimbledon trophies you could have had. Carlos only had one! 1/2" groups at 200 yards with a sporter rifle is a wet dream my friend!! I quit reading at that point... Just think of all those stupid snipers all over the world and gunmakers that are needlessly shooting and making heavy barreled rifles. Wow- they could be shooting ultra light contours since most LE sniper situations only require ONE shot.

That makes NO sense at all. All guns have "custom" serial numbers. They are whatever the manufacturer decides is needed. MANY guns have the same serial numbers- they are NOT issued by the govt. I can't imagine what you mean by "they couldn't find his gun" and "it came up as a 12 Ga shotgun". Who couldn't find his gun? Anyway don't worry about the serial number- there will be a place for it on the gun permit. I never had them look at my caliber stamp. Also. you can't take anything bigger that a "300 magnum" into Mexico unless they have changed their laws recently. I can't imagine why would would not have a caliber stamp on the gun somewhere? If it is not stamped- you can always take it to someone who has a pantograph or laser and have something put on it. I was there when this happened. When we were all checking our weapons in with U.S. Customs, they checked the serial numbers and his rifle would return as a 12ga shotgun. Luckily it did not cause any problems, just some confusion....lol! Again, I say that makes no sense. I have NEVER had US customs check my serial number. They were satisfied with the the form 4457 which you can get at any customs port. They only want to know if you are IMPORTING a gun as opposed to returning with it. There is NO database that you can look up guns by serial number to see what they are. There are not "rules" on serial numbers and manufacturers can make them anything they want. When you run a gun serial in the wanted file in NCIC it requires the make, type and in some cases, caliber because there are so many duplicates that they need to know if the stolen hit is really the gun being run.

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Thanks for the interest- Rifle has sold to the fist one who looked at it but wished to remain anonymous I am selling a Winchester Mod 70 push feed in 270 Winchester. This gun is like new- NRA 95%. Has never had a scope on it and I don't even think it has been fired. Get a rifle ready for that deer hunt before the rush! Priced right at $450 PM if interested. Dennis Sorry Doug- couldn't add pics until now. My computer wasn't up.

Breaking a barrel in is quite subjective indeed. Everyone has a different opinion of what "breaking a barrel in" means too. When you first shoot the rifle. clean it thoroughly after the first shot- use whatever you want as long as it isn't abrasive- don't use JB to clean during break-in. It will probably take quite a few patches to get it clean. It should cool quite a bit doing this. Then shoot it again. Clean it completely. It will probably take quite a few patches to get it clean- especially the carbon. Do this until it gets noticeably easier to clean. There is no magic number of shots that break in a barrel. You are simply burnishing the steel. A hammer forged barrel should be pretty smooth inside. Once it cleans up nice- shoot your group, working your load or testing factory ammo. I usually clean it again after the first couple of groups and then let it go until you notice that accuracy has dropped off before cleaning. There are some great solvents out there. Most of the new ones are better than Sweets or CR10. I like Bore tech, Montana extreme and TM to name a few. I just broke in a barrel last week. It took 4 shots to break it in. That isn't a lot of wear and tear on your barrel. It is better to get it to where it will clean nicely at first than to fight it for weeks. Good luck and have fun

That makes NO sense at all. All guns have "custom" serial numbers. They are whatever the manufacturer decides is needed. MANY guns have the same serial numbers- they are NOT issued by the govt. I can't imagine what you mean by "they couldn't find his gun" and "it came up as a 12 Ga shotgun". Who couldn't find his gun? Anyway don't worry about the serial number- there will be a place for it on the gun permit. I never had them look at my caliber stamp. Also. you can't take anything bigger that a "300 magnum" into Mexico unless they have changed their laws recently. I can't imagine why would would not have a caliber stamp on the gun somewhere? If it is not stamped- you can always take it to someone who has a pantograph or laser and have something put on it.

The 13th Warrior

For every light contour barrel that can shoot that good, there are 10 heavier contour barrels that shoot better. Rare is the #1 contour rifle that will shoot 3/4" groups. Another advantage to a heavier contour is that it will shoot different bullets to a similar point of impact. A light barrel is good for about 2 shots and then it is too hot and will start walking. I guess you can take this all into consideration. I just built a long range rifle for myself and it weighs 9 lbs all up. This is pretty heavy for a whitetail rifle in my book. Can't want to carry anything much heavier! I could have shaved about 3/4 of a pound with an ADL style magazine and a 1" scope tube. It works for me though.

Do I have to go shoot it first so you can see if it shoots or not??

I use one in 222 for calling.

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The word is that game and fish intentionally held off on releasing them BEFORE their stupid expo was over so that disgruntled hunters wouldn't fail to attend the expo. I have heard if from several sources so it is probably true. If they are out on Monday, I then will be completely convinced that it is true!

The glass in the Huskemaw is as good as any of the Leupolds that I have. That said, my only knock on it is that it is basically limited to one bullet, one velocity, one elevation... it is not very flexible. It is very simple, the turret is marked in yards rather than MOA or milliradians. I prefer to use a hand-held computer and click into my turrets what it suggests. My biggest complaint is a lack of suitable laser range finders that will range much beyond 700-800yds without a real reflective target- and yes, I am talking about the Leica and Swarovski units. I have not tried the Zeiss but I doubt it is any better. Newcon has some that look interesting but the interesting ones start at about $2200.

I wasn't sure the best place to post this but this has as many hits as any place. For those who may be looking for employment, we are hiring transport officers. This will be in Florence, AZ at the Dept Homeland Security Processing Center. Requirements: [*]Must have a CDL and high school diploma with preference to corrections experience and those with passenger endorsement. [*]You must be able and obtain a "P" endorsement ASAP. I can help arrange this for those who have CDLs and lack the P endorsement only. [*]You must be able to obtain an Armed Guard card from DPS (criminal background check) [*]You must be able to pass a Federal background check as well. [*]You must have a good driving record- no DUIs etc. [*] Starting pay is $17.74/hour ( I think) until you finish training (about 6 weeks) and $24.39 after that. There are other benies such as 401(k) and health care. This wont be open much longer if anyone is interested. It involves transporting detainees to and from airports, to the port of entry (Nogales) and to and from medical appointments as well as miscellaneous pick-ups around the eastern half of the state. If you have a DV conviction or felony you cannot get an armed guard card so you wouldn't be eligible. PM me for application info. Thanks to Amanda for letting me post this. Dennis

Kent- you misunderstood- your credit score is meaningless- you can't have over $7500 in outstanding debt (I think that is the cut off) Meaning that if you defaulted on a loan(s) and are behind- it can't be more than a certain amount. You just can't admit you are wrong can you? There are quite a number of folks who had bankruptcies and bad debt that were hired. Most had to catch up on a couple of loans and they were fine- the bus drivers of which I speak were all hired at the same time as me and they were told they had to have good credit. They were told if they wanted to take a chance and write a hardship letter they could. Some did and I think they let them slip. The ones that were let go all had felonies or recent misdemeanors or domestic violence convictions. Nobody was mislead- in fact, they were told repeatedly that if they had any of these issues they would not pass the background check. It was their call. Some were so desperate for work that they just lied on their apps and worked until it caught up with them. They got paid to go to training and then were no longer allowed on the Federal Property. You should really let this go- I am sorry that you don't qualify and didn't want a job- those 6+ that did get one from here are grateful that I posted it. I wanted to see if I could attract some like-minded souls to this job and I succeeded- I didn't mislead anyone. They called me or emailed me for more details. I refused to take apps from quite a few people because they didn't qualify. Several were brothers of folks that post on here regularly and were told about the opening by someone that read it here. This thread is dead until I report back with how many we hired.

You are absolutely correct in this. You should not quit your job if you have any criminal background or bad credit. We have already started submitting backgrounds on people that are not even hired. We want this to be a painless as possible. There were some real stupid people that quit their school bus driving jobs ($13/hours) to take this job ($24/hour) that had issues. There are about 4 of them that are now unemployed but since they basically lied on their paperwork. I don't feel the least bit sorry for them! To clarify a couple of things: since you have to work on a Federal facility- they run a Federal background check on you- a very thorough one through the OPM. They have not recinded the 40 year-old-waver at this time. They have raised it twice now. Don't see them changing it back myself.

When I told my son-in-law about your post, he said that the government would not hire anyone over 35, or some such age, when wearing a sidearm is involved. Is that true? He's 51 years old. Bill Quimby That is not even close to true. First off, to be hired as an 1811 (investigator ie. DEA agent, FBI agent et al) you can't have reached your 40th birthday. Same might be true of 1801s (armed federal officer- not investigators) but I am not sure on that. We are a PRIVATE contractor- we hired some 65 year folks that really have no business with guns but the discrimination laws are in their favor and we have no choice. He should have applied!!

Kent- when I got hired here, I was guiding an elk hunt in 27. I had the company email me an app and went home for a day and filled it out- my wife FAXed it in and i got a phone call the next day offering me a job. I drove home from Alpine and started Sept 29th. A month later I was promoted to supervisor. Pretty painless if you ask me. I had a CDL but no P endorsement. I went and paid a guy $75 and got my endorsement. No biggie. We are vetting people a little more closely this time so that we don't get so many folks who can't pass backgrounds, are lazy or just plain dumb. We lost about 6 people to back grounds and I had to let one guy go yesterday and one quit last week. People don't want to pass on a job that pays this good right now. I just thought I would throw this bone out there to those folks who have common interests with me and might possibly be good employees. So far I have about 6 from here that will PROBABLY be hired. How is that for odds? I need resumes for anyone else interested by COB today. Email me for a FAX number. Thanks Dennis dwslade@gmail.com

I am not sure what you are insinuating that the hiring process is "crap" but it is actually very straight forward. It is being done locally instead of through corporate so that we can better screen applicants and have a better pool to hire from. You turn in an app, can pass all the stuff, have a decent interview, there is a good chance you have the job. As far as being a new company, not hardly. This company has contracts in NY, TX, CA and now this one in Florence. Congress has mandated that ICE and other Fed agencies contract these services out to save money. This is a brand new contract and we are doing what ICE agents were doing previous to Nov 1. If you have buddies that work as DOs at the facility in Florence and they are bad-mouthing the "new" company it's probably only because they are more restrictive than the previous contractor and are making people tow-the-line so to speak. The detention side is a different company than the transportation side. Some things haven't gone smoothly but that is to be expected with a new contract. I think we are doing a pretty good job right now; good pay, good benefits, 4-10 work schedule, provide all the uniforms and gear, pay for training etc. Things will only improve. The drivers being hired now will come into the job with people on their side to train and help them so it should be pretty painless for them. This is the easiest job I have ever had.

No, it is not with Wackenhut. I don't think they are currently hiring.

My son-in-law is wanting to finance an AR-10 project and decided he will part with some of his "horde" to do it. I dunno if ammo is still hard to come by or not. If anyone is interested in this get with me. He has 9mm, 40 S&W, .223 and some 7.62x39. This is NOT a fire sale so don't get your hope up that he is giving it away. He lives in S/E Mesa. Dennis

The only Wolf stuff must be 7.63x39 and he didn't bring me any of that. I have Winchester, Remington and Federal