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Had that one last year awesome hunt!! I swear those trees are common by the border :)

No one cares about front shoulder deer meat anyways, that ends up jerky meat for me. The loins and rump meat is where its at

I think more handloaders and target shooters use Bergers than Hornady or Nosler combined (just from what Ive seen). So more info about bergers that are out there. That being said I also had a friend who shoots a 30-378 210 HVLD and had it cooking fast. Nailed an elk at 700 yards and dropped it in its spot. Oddly it got back up after good placement (from what the spotter said) and we tracked it over a mile and never found him. The following year a family member uses his rifle and shoots lot closer and killed it but it penciled through. He stopped shooting them after that day. I have found more pencil through shots through the internet and you tube about bergers. But there are alot more success about this round then these other shootings. Hornday Amax I have never seen a bad report (as of yet on my behalf) but the ELD-m are the Amaxs with new tips and there are some really good (real kill reviews) about the ELD-x. Im shooting the ELD-x and its working ok. But I will not hesitate to shoot the ELD-m at all. I have my 300 win mag 0.222 MOA on the 208 ELDm. But for Bergers I just think there are so many of them out there you just happen to see more results, you know Law of Large numbers, but enough it has me concern, but not enough to not use them.

Since Im a plumber I just set my torch up and leave it on full blast, hold the base of the brass with a light glove, and since I have mapp gas it burns lot hotter. So I twist it real quick for about 3 to 3-1/2 seconds at the shoulder and bam!!! Done! I can do a lot in a short amount of time. (by the way I use a torch on high heat on copper and brass all the time for work. I know when metals start to change so you might have to do a couple of practice rounds) I did this very quick!

5 MOA groups at 100 yards. I saw this and said to myself what are you talking about Lee!!! .5 MOA is awesome!!!!! OHhhhh 5.0 MOA ha ha ha

Not sure if this is a common practice, but I went ahead and took my widest spread of variation of my load development to test it out. Just in case you slipped up or put the wrong brass weight in the wrong pile and see what it does to your most common grouping. So here is the widest spread I have after I weighed everything. 1--shot--ELDx 143.4 g-----H1000 60.6 g------Brass 178.2 2nd--shot--ELDx 142.9------H1000 60.5-----Brass 177.3 (this will be 80% of my loads) 3rd--shot-- ELDx 142.2----H1000 60.2-----Brass 176.6 200 yards little under 1.8 inch. Most of my shots are usually .8"- 1.5" at 200 yards. So even with this variations Im still getting sub MOA My node for this load is a pretty good spread. Velocity from 60-60.8 grains is roughly 15fps variations. My OAL will show up a little more, but brass weight and bullet weight with powder is does pretty good.

Cept that he owned that kid Casey 99% of the time. Cept I'm still here sooo........ Ha ha ha ha ----BUMB SUCKER!!!!

Casey couldn't leave the old man alone you cyber bully :)

looks good

I miss that guy!!!!! Funniest story there was in CWT for the reason he left!!!

Awesome!!! Was in Seward in May, Beautiful!!!

Clint (Stomp442) from safford. If neffs his last name then yes

That looks sweet!! I love Tikka's! Smooth as butter Here's mine! 6.5-270 AI Fire form is about the same I used 57 grains W760 and was consistent with 1/2 and 3/4" groups Shoots now 143 ELD-x H 1000 60.5g 3,105 fps with a 0.465 MOA Bump for an awesome rifle that your selling

For the 6.5 caliber right??? I haven't seen that from berger before! Whats the BC on the box?

If you don't handoad not a lot of options of heavy bullets for the 7mm-08, most common is the 140s and BC is usually .10 BC less than the 6.5 unless you start hand loading 160 grains you will be right there

^^^^ What 300RUM said!

Ill be back up there camping with the family, have you guys been getting hit with rain hopefully??

6.5 creedmoor should have better recoil than the 25.06, but the 25 will knock down an elk no probs especially from 75 yds away

Also I had plan b already set up and bought a antelope tag in New Mexico

Time to buy a bow!!! You can head north in september and around phx or down south with your bow in December/ January. That's how I got into bow hunting I didn't want to not hunt! Found out I have just is much fun hunting with a bow and you can pick and choose what unit and weekend for the most part

Now that is a dead head

You get what you want!!! Look, feel, style, paint, bolt, barrel length. Usually you should get 1/2 moa or better. But you can pick up a nice Remington and it can shoot .222 MOA with a sweet spot like my 300 win mag (but I can't get it to group with anything else Sub MoA, but my semi custom rifle will be sub moa on just about anything I try with it, but the load I settle for is about .435 MOA. Lots of Tikkas out of the box are 1/2 MOA.

Mule

What Lance said! If you only focus on the prize and shooting the big trophy is the prize then you are in the same since teaching children that only winning in a sport is the most important thing, then you sir are a pathetic shallow coach. Every pro sport player started off loving the game and were properly trained to be a team player and taught to give it your all! You can't go pro without out that foundation and have a long career in that sport!!

Sure you can!!! But if you ever get pulled over by game and fish and the AZ lic don't match up it might raise an eyebrow. I don't see a reason for the child to get an out of state lic