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With the last year ammo scare I was forced to reload. So Im pretty new to it. But Im shooting the Nosler 140 grain accurbond. I've been also practicing lot more with Long Range shooting and hitting 500-650 yards. I know 500 yards is not long range to some but Im getting there. But I want a load that when I hit a deer at 600-700 yards I will at least have over a 1000 lbs of energy when I hit it at that distance. To get that lbs I need to be shooting 2950-3000 fps. I finally maxed out the load that says in the Nosler book and shot them today. Here are my results RL15, 47grain, Fed 210 primer= 2,690 fps IMR 4350, 53.5, Fed 210 primer= 2,525 fps RL19, 55g, Fed 210 primer= 2,678 fps This is no where near 3,000 fps in what the Nosler book is claiming. What im I doing wrong or need to change? Im shooting a Tika .270 24" barrel and I believe 1-10" twist. Go easy on me Im still learing in the Reload world! Also its not my goal in life to shoot a deer at 700 yards I just want to make sure that Im capable of a go shot placement and knock down power if I have to. I have a mule deer hunt in Nov. in 36B

Thanks for all the help and advice. I finally got my gun dialed in after many many rounds. The w760 was the powder that got me the speed. But at 3060 fps I was doing a 1-1/4" grouping at 100 yards. Not very good. I took a grain off and dropped me to 3000 fps and hitting one inch groupings at 200 yards. Sighted it in for 300 yard and was smacking center of the 300 yard plate. Took it out to 500 hundred yards and adjusted the Moa and hit the plate and got that gong!!

Wow way to stick it out

I've been hunting that unit for couse for years now. Anything with hills will hold them. Everywhere I've gone you can spot them. I never see hundreds but almost every time morning or evening I'm Glassing up couse. Once you get south of Arivaca and into the bigger hills you see them. Don't be afraid to hunt the base of the mountains and the small rolling hills. I've seen them there just as much as the bigger mountains. Glass and glass good luck

Somebody just posted almost about the same thing a couple weeks ago. I was surprised how many people smoked a deer with it. I wouldn't personally but that's me. My uncle took out a cow elk with a 22-250. Right shot placement it will do the job. You got to remember there are literally tens of thousand of Bad Guys in this world who are no longer breathing thanks to the .223 and human beings are bigger and heavier then couse.

Anything with hills in that unit will hold white tail. Look up on game and fish site it will give you some good points

Good looking buck

There are plenty of spots in the flats for trailers. Couse are usually from the base of the mountains and all the way up to the top. Sometimes you will see them in the flats usually crossing to another side.

Ha ha ha funny thing is I have thrown rocks and hit it on the skip. Lucky for me I had a block wall to sneak up on him to even throw the rock. I want a 22-250 but for right now I use my .270' for everything. I just keep the same load.

Nature girl I thought you were going to take your bow and and stick one of those coyotes near your property? But congrats

If there are any Boy Scouts or fathers who have Boy Scouts and need a Eagle project contact the forest service and get your eagle service project and help do a clean up. I know this doesn't solve our issue but it helps those boys getting their Eagle to have a very good project and help out the Forrest.

Well done!

Well you can quit hunting and go back to fishing because they don't get much better than that

That's quite the hunt!! Nice job

There is something about Arizona and the open country. Once you learn to glass and your eyes adjust to using the binos you will find a new favorite kind of hunting besides deer feeders in texas. Nothing is cooler when you pick up deer at 1000-2000 yards out. Lots of guys will spot them out at a mile plus. The excitement starts and you plan the stalk. The country here is very cool and unique. An awesome drive is going north on the 191 to Alpine or take the 10 into phx and head north to either Payson or Flagstaff. You will see a huge elevation change from low desert, to high desert, to junipers and cedars, to large grassy areas and then up to the pines. Enjoy arizona

Just claim it was coming right toward you and you had to take the shot; with your bow; with the caller around your neck; and the spoil meat that got accidentally left out.

Diesel trucks have come a long way in just 8 years. I'm a ford guy and have a bulletproof 6.0. With them bulletproof you don't have oil cooler problems, EGR problems, or head studs. It work the way it was supposed to. I pulled a 12k lbs trailer with the old tank engine 7.3. Now with the the 6.0 I've notice it's lot smoother and pulls faster up hill with the 12k trailer. I was doing 60- to 55 mph up those big hills from flagstaff to phx and guess what those ford 6.7 pulling bigger trailers blew by me like I was standing still. So my point the Big 3 today's trucks will dance all round my 6.0. Pick one that you like and feel. But I must say I love the ford 6.7. Google it and there was a 2014 diesel shoot out. Ford over all own but there are pros and cons to all of them. Good luck

It's a beauty

Congrats thanks for the story !!

Wow!! Diehards! There's usually 3 areas these type of people do for work in life. Navy Seal, Army SF Delta Fource, or a rancher from Alpine Arizona. I've seen these ranchers at the Bear Wallow all pissed off looking and looks like they can break you in half. Us normal hunters can't compete with those so ill still whine here and there

I can't remember when maybe around 2005 I had a December hunt whitetail in 36B. We got there and we had a high pressure swing in the day before. It was around 95 degrees in December opening morning. December!!!!!!! The next day southern arizona had a hi wind advisory. It was wind blowing 20-40 mph. We still got out and hope to find some calm pockets. I got to the top of the mountain and all of Mexico wind was bashing on that ridge. With the wind compressing up against the mountain the top side was shooting wind around 50-60 mph. I could barley stand. Well we gave up that day and I remember the tent bubbly down on our faces in the middle of the night. Did it get better?? We woke up to calm cool RAINY weather. We still wanted to hunt so we went out and beat the bush and scared out a few does. The next morning we woke up to snow!! What the!! Snow is a better sign but I was done mentally with this hunt. So we glassed all morning through fog and some open areas and then called it quits. That was the most bizarre hunt I have ever been on.

You know besides the bugs, this is the main reason I opt out of the first more successful hunts because do the heat. I work in the heat all the time but for some reason hunting in it just drives me crazy. Maybe it's a psychological thing you think hunting should be cold but it's hot. I don't know. But I'm hoping for my November 14 hunt it should be 10 to 15 degrees cooler than what it was this last Saturday

Also some of the best hunting areas and 36 B that I would like to hike into and get away from the roads have the heaviest human traffic trails I have ever seen. And this isn't some type of hiking trails that's posted these are made by illegals. No roads and I bet there's some big bucks but I haven't pushed myself to go back in there yet. I like knowing that I can glass up a truck about a mile away at least somebody's nearby. Just be safe

All of my deer hunts have been in 36 a and mainly b. The only times i saw illegals was 3 of them were being escorted in the back of a BP truck, and off Arivaca road she looked like she was giving up because a BP truck was right in front of me and pulled over and she just walked up to them. Then about 1 am we were at the base of the mountain sleeping when a Blackbird was shining its spot light on the topmofmthe mountain. It Hovered there for almost 40 minutes. My guess it dropped some agents off and bagged some illegals. While I'm waiting for the chopper to leave and now that I'm a wake got out to take a leak and the chopper briskly spotted me! Don't know if the light just accidentally rolled of me while I was taking a leak or he did it on purpose. Anyways all these people don't want to be caught. I don't think they want to break into your car or camps and bring attention to themselves. Doesn't mean it hasn't happen though.

Congrats! You know I never eatin mule deer only white tail. Is there a difference?