murfys69law

Apple and oranges..you can't compare other states to AZ...we are still 10 years behind every other place. It's the natures of the beast with AZ. BUT...if you do get a prime Elk tag here..chances are you will get a wall hanger. That's what makes it so fun.

BITE YOUR TONGUE!!! Having the eairly draw for Elk and Anlelope was one of the best things AZGFD has done. I'm not sure how many people put in but it has to be in the tens of thousands. Sometimes they screw up. Thats a lot of apps to process. We all make mistakes.

I know exactly where its is, its on dugas. I will give you a call. Well 1 thing is for sure...IT"S WET NOW..just saying

Dreaming of the day....................................

Browning A Bolt 300 win mag 180 grn cor-loct 72 grns IMR 4350 @ 3000+ fps 3x9 Redfiled accu-trac..my dial an elk.

I think we alll need to take a deep breath here. As soon as we know it will be 2 attitudes. Guys and girls dancing in the street or guys and girls kicking the dog cuz they didn't get drawn. And i'm buying a new dog today just in case...lark

We are eating Pronghorn that has been properly cleaned and cooled rapidly, being very careful to not get dirt or fluids on the meat. It's very good when that happens. I hear people say how bad it is in WY, UT and MT all the time. It is a meat that spoils rapidly and is hinted in hot temps so has to be dealt with quick. Deer is much more tolerant of slower cooling, I think that's why mine was so wonderful. I had it quatered and on ice withing 1 hour. Best meat to this day I think.

I totally beg to differ mattys281. Ignorance of the law is NOOO excuse!!!. There are people that shed hunt that don't even hunt. Many do however own a quad, rhino, polaris, bike etc... and there are NUMEROUS laws regarding the offroad use of these vehicles. My thoughts are, They don't give a dang and it will hurt the hunters or outdoorsman that are ethical and follow the law. Book em dano is what I say..NO EXCUSE for this to happen. I'm not trying to excuse anyone, I just don't think there's the sense of malice that others seem to think is there. I know too many people who naively think you can go out in the forest and basically do whatever you want. Especially people that are new to it. They think you can drive anywhere, camp any where, shoot anywhere, etc. I encountered a guy on a side by side a few years ago that was cruising down a closed logging road I'd walked down with his kid. They stopped to say good morning and ask if I'd seen anything. I chatted with them a little and politely explained that they'd crossed the wilderness boundary and were in big trouble if caught. They thanked me, turned around and left. Is that the rare case? Maybe. But he wasn't a lazy disrespectful slob, he was just ignorant about where he was. That I would say is the rare case Matt. My point is , If you buy a quad, side by side or any off road vehicle including jeeps and the like, IT IS your responibilty to yourself and others to learn, research, buy a map or even contact the appropriate parties ahead of time to find out what, where, when and how you can leagally go into the outdoors and do it without being in violation of the law. Anyone can plead stupidity but it doesn't excuse the fact that they are not following the law. Lake pleasant is a prime example. NO jet skiing areas that are closed MEANS. NO jet skiing! Because someone rode past the bouy that it was written on and says they didn't see it doesn't excuse the fact that it's prohibited. In the great words of Ron White......You can't fix stupid. Definition of DUE DILIGENCE. 1: the care that a reasonable person exercises to avoid harm to other persons or their property.

Don't undedrstand the question SELDOM DRAWN. When does my hunt start. I agree it starts when I fill out an app. The adrenaline has already started with me and I bet a lot of other hunters. Just the chance to go into the field with a hard to get tag in AZ is enough to get my blood going. It's the promise of making another memory for me or another hunter I may have been drawn with. The opportunity to maybe see that once in a lifetime animal whether it be 1" or 1200yrds. I to shoot both archery and rifle. I have been lucky to kill with both and have found that the adrenaline is pumping either way. Maybe different with a bow as you are closer, but still exciting. I have killed at 500yrds plus and was so excited that I filled my tag but also I have the hunt memorized liked yesterday and the ardrenaline still wells up when I think about it.

Thats a crackerjack of a mount. Congrats

Sounds good! I am wanting to go the crock pot route. Any specific spices/ingredients/sauces you like to use or recommend? Bone out Javi. soak in ice/water and continue changing water and ice till water runs clear of blood. Put in crockpot with onions pepper and salt to taste. BUT also sprinkle thyme on it as well before cooking. This seems to take away some of the gamey/musky flavor if there is any. Cook until tender, usually over night. Add a cup of wildflower honey, and BBQ sauce of wanted. Sweet Baby Rays is the only sauce I use. I have used this recipe for years and it's not to bad. Tastes alot like BBQ pork and I have had others agree. GOOD LUCK

I totally beg to differ mattys281. Ignorance of the law is NOOO excuse!!!. There are people that shed hunt that don't even hunt. Many do however own a quad, rhino, polaris, bike etc... and there are NUMEROUS laws regarding the offroad use of these vehicles. My thoughts are, They don't give a dang and it will hurt the hunters or outdoorsman that are ethical and follow the law. Book em dano is what I say..NO EXCUSE for this to happen.

WELLLLLLLLLLLLL...If it's on the internet .....it has to be true..you can't lie on the internet...RIGHT????

Don't know if anyone has ever heard this but i was told years ago that if you shoot an animal and runs for a while before dropping , the meat can get pretty bad tasting. I wouldn't know as I have never had one run after the shot. This is excluding archery tho. Only had one drop and that was a Javi. Broke his back.

Hunted alone for many years as I had a friend that I used to hunt with and found out the hard way he had been poaching unknown to me. Had to go to court as I was subpeoned because I was on a tag with him 8 years before and they finally caught up with him. He was convicted too..AWESOME.. Anyway I started hunting alone because I trust myself. The rifle that was stolen has never turned up. I had checked everywhere too. Oh well.

3 years ago I bought a .270 WSM. I had never hunted with this round or this rifle before. Got it sighted in at 2" high at 100yrds. Went hunting and dropped my first speed goat ever after 30 yrs of trying for a tag at 517 yards. I shoot a lot of long range rounds with my other guns so I am confident with my abilities. I have a Nikon Monarch mil dot 2.5x10 on the rifle. I held the crosshair even with it's back and the round dropped approx. 8" at that range. I was shooting Fusion 130 grn rounds out of the box. I was impressed at how flat shooting this round is. I hadn't had much time to do any longrange with this new rifle at the time or since as I have not been drawn in a while. I am just wondering if this sounds familiar to anyone else as far as the drop and sighting in at 2" high @100 yrds of the .270WSM

First of all, if you read the post it said, A BOX AND A HALF. I had approx 1 week before my hunt to do what I needed to to sight this in. I took this rifle because YES I was confident with the ammo which I have used for years and have set up rifles of my own for many years. I did have a back up rifle that was proven but own nothing that I thought would be as flat shooting at a longer distance. I shot 5 round groups times 5 at the time sighting it in with the groups 1/4" or less apart. There were no flyers. From the time I put the scope on it was hitting paper 6" high and 2 &1/4 left. Dilaed it in and continued to do what I have done for years. Every other rifle I own have been well tested and shot many times before going afield. I just didn't have time and my old .270 had been stolen which is why I bought this one. I am really sorry I posted this. Again I have no reson to lie about this. Next time I will just ask my firends personally. Guess it's my fault for not hunting with friends and going alone.

When the little critter layed down and fell asleep next to my 270. all i had to do was dress him out. Saved on ammo and packing him out too!! Dumb pig... lark Hunted with a good friend. Spooked a herd in a canyon. They ran up the other side and stood about 200yards away hiding behind bushes. They couldn't see us but we saw them just fine. They were directley across from us so it really couldn't have been a better set up. My friend layed down as well as me and we counted...1....2...3 and fired. Never did it before but it worked. We both got nice pigs and the hunt was over..beer time

WOW!! When the real truth comes out it kinda takes away from the whole post. Nice kitty tho

Looks like we agree Amanda. Moose was my favorite until this Antelope.

I don't understand your post. I AM talking about a .270 WSM. The comments about a .270 WIN, which I have shot for 30 years, were in reference to comparing a .270 WIN to a .270 WSM. that somone had made. I don't think that a .270 WIN would shoot the same as a .270 WSM. So your point is what? My post was to get info on if anyone else had had this type of performance with a .270 WSM and was this normal for this round. I have no reason to lie about my experience with what happened. The only way this isn't true, is if the 2 guys that were there were wrong in their ranging of the shot.

I didnt even put in so I bought a Browning 300 win mag and 400 rounds of ammo just in case someone I know does get drawn and wants to borrow it. lark

Thats a standard .270... Again I have never owned a .270wsm. If I have a box and a half of shells through this i would be surprised and that includes sighting it in when I first got it.. I plan on doing a lot of checking and shooting with this shortly. Flinching? Maybe, but after missing a booker the day before, I was pretty steady with bipods and laying down with a good anchor when I took the shot. I will let you know what I find. Maybe after this weekend. I will be doing some predator hunting.

Thanks to all you meat lovers. Some on here I have never had and wish I could. The Oryx sounds great and I did have Mt Lion once years ago but don'r remember. Caribou would be another I would like to try. As far as Javelina go. I do have a recipe and it's not to bad. But remember, you put enough BBQ sauce on a turd you can eat it...just saying.