Deserve2beworked

Yep. Really stacked up with hunt prep though, leaving in two days. Will send some droolers along asap.

Interesting and honest dialogue, thanks. I think as a non resident I'll put my energy toward scouting to locate bucks and bulls rather than "hauling thousands of pounds of crap" out into the woods as though it is going to draw animals from miles away. But, if I was a resident hunting the same honey hole year after year I see some advantages, if nothing more than cool photos, to putting some minerals back in the soil. I have some remote property in Northern, YES, NORTHERN California where I kept my horses in the summer. They are now gone to the pastures in the sky and their wood corrals have been mostly taken down. The exact spots where their mineral blocks used to be, there are now huge holes in the ground where all sorts of critters continue to dig for the sweets. Thanks again for your input. Not many sites I would even pose this question or any question.

I hear ya on the second question. Never have done it so it seems unethical. But, if I was born and raised in Arizona hunting over salt might not seem so.

Since I'm a nonresident and from a state where everything is eventually against some law I thought best to get feedback on this subject from you. Two years ago I was filling up my guzzler in Flagstaff when a camo clad guy pulled up next to me. The back of his truck was full of these huge bags of salt. Since he was in camo I didn't think he was a rancher but I inquired any way. "Man, that's a lot of salt. Must have a bunch of cows. Why do you use bagged salt instead of blocks?" He looked at me and said, "It ain't for cows. It's for elk!" He then proceed to tell me he had a hot water hole and had been packing salt to it for years. Said he would kill a monster there. I've since then asked around about the use of salt when hunting in Arizona. An outfitter told me it borders on the unethical to use salt. On the write up for 12A deer hunt by the G&F Dept it states "Salt licks are a great attractant for deer and provide the same opportunity as waterholes." But, section R12-4-303 states "An individual may not use edible or ingestible substances to aid in taking big game. But, Part 6 lists water and salt not included. Is putting salt out near my ground blind or tree stand to attract big game legal or illegal in Arizona? Is putting salt out near my ground blind or tree stand ethical or unethical in your humble opinion?

Finally! ! Posted this am using a Cabela's card. But, transaction date listed as 7-11-15. Bab here I come! Thanks for the support on this one guys. Best site for sure. p.s. Oh, by the way, now where do I hunt on the plateau? lol.

Unit 12A and 12B Archery only August 21 to Sept 10.

It is easy to feel stupid sometimes, but this is what I applied for. 1st Choice: Hunt 1184 No second choice

I still hope I burned them! Have been burning points state by state since retirement which was ten years ago. Have the loyalty and hunter ed for AZ so it has been eight years of accumulation. Each year I apply for the elk tag so with license in hand figured may as well get a deer point. Last five years did CA X5B, Utah Book Cliffs, NV Unit 6, Colorado 21/30, all archery deer hunts. This year it was to be The BAB. but . . .

I am a Cabelas card guy. It has worked well for years. Hopefully it works one more time. Can't believe I wont draw a Kaibab archery deer with 10 points when it usually only takes 3 or 4. Got to keep the faith. Stars are just lining up now I think. Got to go back to the Cabelas site and manage my account!

Applied for Kaibab archery mule deer, non resident, 10 points, no cc hit here yet. Will wait through weekend and then change the cc hit to Canadian Club!

System fixed.

Just tried to apply. System did fine, knew me, license number, all the data, etc. It even took the data for the permit I wanted. When it asked if I wanted to add another applicant and I said no, it crashed and went to unexpected error! Tried again, same results. It is the little things in life that really piss you off!

There was so much road traffic even the mosquitoes hide out! Really not a bad year for bugs last season.

If people followed the MVUM roads open/roads closed, problem solved for you. Or if the MVUM was actually enforced, problem solved for you and many others. With so many tags and so many roads, and such a great place to off road for non hunters, isolation is an issue. This just ain't a wilderness hunt. Elk adjust and we need to do that to be successful on a great bull there. There are great bulls there. IMHO