pyle762

My two sons drew youth tags this year. They are my step son's and until a year ago had never hunted. The 15 year old got a cow last year and my 13 year was a little jealous. He got his turn this year. So with two 13 years (my daughter and step-son) we headed out for the hunt. It didn't take long. On the first day we had to hunt, my daughter found a buck and my son made a heck of a shot to get him. The buck was 316 yards away, and he made a one shot kill on him. The 15 year had his chance later in the week but we didn't take advantage of the opportunities we had so we went one for two. Somewhere down there is his buck. A pair of happy 13 years olds Also my daughter found a very strange critter crawling around the desert. It was the biggest grasshopper I had ever seen. She looked it up. It is called a horse lubber.

Awesome job! Great bull!

Last time I found one there he was swimming...

Here is are my 2 bulls I have got, but I have only had 2 bull tags. The first was a limited opp hunt in 2B on an any elk tag back in 2007. I was pretty happy to get him, as he was a 6x7 bull on a LO hunt in August. My secong bull was in 6b on th early archery hunt on opening day in 2013. I snuck into his bedding area and shot him at 65 yards. He went 100 yards before he piled up. In the picture it looks like the arrow didn't penetrate much but it went all the way to the fletchings and worked it's way back out. I have another LO archery bull hunt coming up in two and am pretty stoked.

My only archery bull was at 4;30PM. Snuck in and shot him in his bed. <---

We had bulls bugling with cows on Nov 20 last year on my son's cow hunt in 23.

Wow! What a sweet rifle.

I have the same tag this year. In 2008 I killed a 189 buck about 200 yards off of highway 67 on the late hunt. The following year the weather was colder in the Oct hunt than the late hunt in 2008. Weather should play a major factor on where to hunt. ...and no I was not road hunting when I killed my buck. You'd have never seen him from the road.

My boys have the first hunt in Oct. It is their first deer tag and they are very excited. Now to figure out if we should chase whitetail or mulies.

Love to see some of the numbers on your buck!Those pics by far don't do it justice! Better late than never. I lost my score sheet but was going through my phone pics and found a photo that I snapped of it.

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My brother and I drew the 12A E muzzleloader tag. Should be a fun one.

Either muzzleloader Kaibab here or late 12BW. Man I love the North Rim.

Looks like a late mule deer hunt north of the big ditch in the Kaibab or 12bw for my brother and I and 2 of the 4 kids have a youth tag for deer somewhere.

Just got home from Big Lake. The fishing was slow, but the kids had fun. My step-son caught his first trout ever, Going to be hard to top that one.

I was able to get him a Bear Lights Out from a member here. Thanks everyone for the offers!

My step-son did not grow up hunting but now he has the bug and wants to get into archery. His birthday is coming up and I would like to try and find a decent used bow in the $150 price range. I would like a 60 or 70 pound bow that is right handed and preferably with an adjustable draw. If that is something you have and are willing to sell,send me a PM. Thanks Here he is with his first trout he ever caught last Friday at Big Lake. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v92/pyle762/6c4b1dc0-03a2-4711-b052-a63b1cb929bc.jpg

You usually can't go wrong with the standards...powerbait,cowbells,night crawlers. We caught our fish drifting night crawlers on the bottom.

Also if you reload look at the reduced loads that Hogden publishes on their site. Using the 4530 powder you can make 300 Win Mag loads kick like 308 and 7 Mag that kicks like 7mm-08. One of my kids shot a cow last year with a reduced load in a 300 WSM and it dumped her really well without all the recoil. I believe that the powder Hodgdon recommends for reduced loads is H4895, not H4350. I have developed reduced loads for the 223, 243, and 30-06 with Trailboss and light for caliber bullets that group fairly well and have nearly the same point of impact at 100 yards as full powered hunting loads. I love the stuff and it doesn't kick a bit. My bad. Thanks for the correction.

So all my kids are members of the one shot, one kill club on all the game they have taken. Here is what I did to get them ready and thought someone may be able to use this for their kid's upcoming hunts. Kids tend to be recoil sensitive and can develop bad habits very easily by developing flinches, trigger jerking, etc. I think a big part of that is due to shooting too much and becoming recoil sensitive, because to a 12 year, even a .243 wil start to hurt after shooting a box of shells. Pain=bad shooting habits. I first did this with my 11 year daughter when she first drew her elk tag and has worked on the rest since then. First- Dry fire practice. Using Google Images I found as many elk pictures as I could; cows, spikes, bulls, even a few mule deer does for no-shoot scenarios. I put them on a slide show where each picture would be on the screen for 10 seconds. We would use the slide show one of two ways. The first, they would point out on each picture where their shot placement would be, acounting for differnt angles. Then the dry fire portion. With an UNLOADED rifle (I would always make them check and tell me if it was unloaded and I would re-check) they would dry fire practice at the slide show elk. They have ten seconds to open the bolt, pull it back and cock the rifle and get their shot off. I would be right next to them, watching the muzzle for any movement as they pulled the trigger. They quickly learned trigger disipline because a good trigger pull equals no movement when the gun went click. I would give feedback so they would know and they soon where able to start telling me if it was good or not. Then reload and do it all over again for the duration of the slide show. We would set up as far as possible from the TV with the scope on the lowest power. This would equal roughly sooting a live animal in the 50-100 yard range depending on the size of the animal in the photo. In the pictures they were only allowed to shoot cows, which is why mule deer, spikes, and bulls were included. By practicing this them became very comfortable with the basics of marksmenship and shooting at animals, not bullseyes. Second- They have to practice with a real gun too. For this, 95% of the shooting was done with a .22 scoped bolt action set up very similar to their hunting rifle. They would shoot at pictures of elk on 8x11 sheets of paper at 25 years, which would equate to fairly long shot on a life size target. This helped them see that they can hit center mass on an animal with a real gun without devopling bad habits due to recoil. When they would shoot their hunting rifle it was only one or two shots, just to get a feel for it. So far this systen has worked great for us. Just wanted to pass the tips along as another way to get your jr hunter ready for the hunt.

Cast boolits and Trailboss powder can be loaded into just about any rifle and has about the same amount of muzzle report and recoil as a 22 LR. Makes great practice rounds for kids.

Also if you reload look at the reduced loads that Hogden publishes on their site. Using the 4530 powder you can make 300 Win Mag loads kick like 308 and 7 Mag that kicks like 7mm-08. One of my kids shot a cow last year with a reduced load in a 300 WSM and it dumped her really well without all the recoil.

Yes there are. Here is a crappy photo of a toad buck from an area that would be considered poor for mule deer hunting. You can't see it in the photo but there is a drop tine on his right side. I saw him in bow range during bow season while scouting for elk. No deer tag Watched him for a few minutes and he wandered off.

Here is my take on it. Mass is extremely deceiving. Tine length you can guess on pretty close while judging a bull. But when you start pulling a tape an a bull has 70+ inches of mass it adds up quick. A big bull will usually have around 60" of mass. It's always a pleasant surprise. So Ya tine length adds up no doubt. But a heavy bull is where you get the unexpected inches In the photo that I posted of my bull earlier in the thread, that is definately what pushed him over the 350 mark. He had average tine length but lots of mass.

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