CouesFanatic

Any update Flatlander?

21 is not the unit to hunt without scouting. The elk population is very low, roads are rough. You have your homework cut out for you considering you have 8 days left.

I looked at Desert Jewel Pointing Labs, might check them.

The south end is blocked. I haven't tried the north end.

That is weird. I have two numbers for them. 480 309 9354 and 480 250 2206. They answered a bunch of my questions and let us come visit whenever we wanted.

They just went through a few litters. I'd call them they are easy to deal with

We just got a black lab from this breeder, very good experience: https://www.desertmountainlabradors.com

Good luck! Wish I was doing the same

or its just about $$$$

Unit 33 is the ridiculous one: Aug 23-Sep 12 Archery Unlimited Oct 11-17 Youth Rifle 250 Any Antlered Oct 18-24 Rifle 425 Coues Oct 25-Oct 31 Rifle 475 Coues Nov 1-7 Rifle 325 Muley Nov 8-14 Rifle 525 Coues Nov 15-21 Muzzy 300 Coues Nov 22-28 Youth Rifle 250 Any Antlered Nov 29-Dec 8 Rifle 525 Coues Dec 13-31 Rifle 150 Coues Dec 13-Dec 31 Archery Unlimited Jan 1-31 Archery Unlimited 3,225 tags plus all 3 archery hunts

I wouldn't use one myself: https://www.epa.gov/indoor-air-quality-iaq/ozone-generators-are-sold-air-cleaners#harmful-ozone

+1

Less tags, there you go.

Not close to the rut and no they don't migrate lower in most circumstances.

Who goes to Walmart anymore?

time to sign it

Still no tag for me. Mailed it Friday evening. Got the tag now. there's still hope. Wednesday afternoon

Watch the Randy Newberg video on youtube in there. That should give you a good idea of how that hunt is.

If I had land in 33 I would close it off too. 33 is ridiculous, there is hunt after hunt with 500 plus tags in the unit. There is 9 rifle and muzzleloader hunts in a row. That doesn't count the over the counter archery tags in august, September, December and January. Signs shot up, trash left out, people not closing gates, people not signing in at locations the Game and Fish is trying to work with the landowner. Most people have no respect these days, I'd close it too if it was my land. If people respected private land maybe things would be different. I'm not saying that's why this specific case is closed, but we would be a lot better off if we closed gates, stayed on the roads and picked up our garbage and casings. The bad apples are hurting our access all over this state.

If they didn't have 12,000 tags in there every fall this stuff wouldn't happen as much. That unit is the G&F's cash cow.

113,000 now

Inciweb has been a little slow on getting new fires up. Any info?

The one by Superior had a huge plume of smoke tonight, I could see if from the beeline.

Private means private. The government should have little to no say in what I do with my land. Requiring access is over the line. Working with landowners to obtain access is the proper way to go.