While showing to a member (great guy named manuel )we noticed a scratch on the objective lens. Upon further investigation it looked like they had been dropped , as their was a small tear in the armor. I immediately called Corey at Vortex and she told me to send them in we will make them new or replace them . So long story short I will have a pair of new Kaibabs for sale around new years. I just bought a set of 12 x 50 EL swarovski's and I leave for Mexico christmas day.