HuntHarder

How does that relate to landowner tags?

Explain. I know nothing about the ranch or what scenario you are presenting.

Can this site afford to lose any more people? What is there, like maybe 30 active members? Guy hasn't been rude or a dick.

Do a little research and look up block management in Montana. Pretty cool concept, that I utilized, to hunt some areas in 2024 for Mule deer. Everything can be a give and take. The biggest reason landowners are cutting off access is because of asshole hunters and other recreators destroying their land. I would wager that any reasonable person would do the same. I can go back 20 years ago and remember helping landowners do work on their land in exchange for hunting access to waterfowl and other game. I used to burn salt cedars, pick up trash and help him post no trespassing signs. The amount of vandalism and dumping on his land was crazy.

You even lift? Medium? Must have bought it when you were trying to lean TF out.

Easy bud, it's just my opinion. I'm not out campaigning on it. Guys on here get all ate up when land gets locked up by landowners, but never go out and do anything to prevent it. Az is unique in that, lots of the larger ranches are only 50ish percent actual private and the rest is checkerboarded. I am not with that, as it is not all their land. I assume you have never hunted out of state? Montana has some really good agreements in place to keep land open, as does North Dakota and many others. Would be kind of shitty if you owned a 1000 acres and never got to shoot a deer off it because it was in a "hard to draw area". We are talking 1 tag, non-transferable and only for your specific and identified land.

100% to side step the draw.

Easy to see who owns land on here and who doesn't. If I owned a large ranch I would want a land owner tag. Non-transferable and only valid for your land. That is how some states do it and I completely agree with it. Now, if you restrict wildlife from coming and going freely, then no.

FWIW, Toyota rear leafs are kind of junk. I went thru a couple sets on mine, many years ago. Of course I drove it like a raped ape. I think my last set was a set Dunbar leafs. Rode a little stiffer, but I quit braking the helper leaf.

Only vote if you killed a buck OTC in 2024 or 2025 please.

@mc68 apologies, it was Sneakem claiming a slam dunk. @sneakem33 while i respect your experiences, i will say the guys i know that hunt water have different experiences. No doubt its effective, but so is spot and stalk. Ive personally taken my last 4 otc bucks within a mile of each other and have gone 4 for 5 on my stalks. All were "mature" bucks.

Nice job editing your previous post... Your exact words were "slam dunk." Nope, never hunted the Az deserts. Explain them to me please. Where did I say water was everywhere? There are indeed, "multiple water sources" in our Az deserts.

Small sample size, but the results of this poll fall more in line with what I was thinking. There are not droves of dinks getting shot over water. No doubt it happens, but not really an issue. The real issue was not actually knowing how many deer were being killed OTC for so long. Hopefully we can reverse the trend of declining #'s, but I do not think it will be easy or quick. AZGFD dropped the ball big time by not requiring reporting. Now we only require it on some hunts or animals. Seems dumb and should be required for all Big game, with penalties if you fail to. I would love to see a way to have a physical check station or a requirement to send in a picture with tag punched on said animal. Stiff penalties if you get caught trying to photoshop or lie. Anyone that has ever sat water knows that despite what MC68 says, it is not a slam dunk. Animals go nocturnal or have multiple water sources they utilize. Trail cam ban made sitting water less effective in my opinion. You used to be able to set cameras up on the sources you knew about and narrow it down to which one was more probable. Now, you gotta sit and hope you picked right. I know guys who have tried to kill certain bucks on water and days upon weeks of sitting netted 0 results.

Wait... Wildwoody has 2- 200" bucks from the early kaibab? Pictures?

People don't admit they sit water? I have never met anyone who won't admit it.

I have been eating as clean as I ever have for the last month or so. Kind of hate it, kind of like it. Mainly just lots of protein and not enough metamucil one day. Almost blew my B hole out. 😂. Been lifting higher weights and lower reps. Strength is going up pretty fast, but nowhere near Dik Skin lean. I really do not want to drop below 180-185ish lbs.

Yeah, gotcha. I killed my Archery bull this year over water. I have yet to kill a deer on water, but have only sat water maybe 3 days for deer in the last 20 years. I enjoy spot and stalk to much, to be bored all day sitting water. Everyone's line is drawn at different points imo, I personally have 0 issues with water sitting, but I know some guys are against it. When people mention the quota disappearing so fast, lots name a main reason as a dry year in '24 and "dinks killed on water." I am a hunter first and foremost and do not believe anyone should tell someone not to shoot a legal animal. I enjoy the meat and knowing how it is processed and taken care of. My family has maybe bought 10lbs of hamburger over the last 20 years. I have been fortunate to usually have a freezer full of grind.

For sure get water banned. Loin cloths and spears only. Nah, just curious as everyone says how many deer have died on water this year. Did you kill one?

I imagine NR draw first because the current rush to get the tags is nothing short of dumb. I do not think resident OTC will last 10 years. I agree on harvest reporting. No one had any idea how many deer were getting killed by archery and crossguns. I think it should be mandatory for ALL big game hunts, punishable by not allowing you to enter the draw next cycle if you fail to report. There will be some deceit, but the vast majority of hunters will report honestly imo.

Emotional response reminds me of Josiah and the trail cam ban. His lawyers failed, as I am hoping these new ones will. Grab a gun and go hunting, if you can no longer bowhunt. It is what I will do, when that day comes..

I have the comparable Bergara BXR carbon. The trigger is better than the standard 10/22, so no help there for you. I do have the Leupold 2-7 rimfire on it tho. Very nice scope so far.

I looked for mine for a few months. In the end, Van GMC caved in and gave my pickup at the price I was willing to pay. Overall it was a good experience. I did 99% of the negotiating thru email. When they agreed, I went down and signed the paperwork. Check Laura GMC as well. They are one of the highest volume and lowest prices. Good luck.

TF is wrong with people?

Maybe they are the only taxidermist in town that takes work in without deposits?

"Primitive" isn't in there Trophy. Guy is grasping at straws. Good on Azgfd for this new rule. Doing their best to stay ahead of technology. I was in favor of the trail camera ban as well. Cross guns during champ or general spunds reasonable to me.