knothead

Yes, I did receive a Turkey BP. I now have 4 points. I would just like a real explanation of how this happened.

I applied for a late spring turkey hunt that I should have easily drawn with 3 points. Mind you, I put the same hunt number as my 1st and 2nd choice and I still have my receipt verifying my application and it has the correct hunt numbers. Success rate has always been 100% for people who apply with 3 or more points. I really don't expect to get a tag or anything I just want an explanation how this could happen. I called and talk to someone in the draw dept and she couldn't explain so they transferred to be to some sort of data analyst and you could tell they didn't want to be bothered today. I'm guessing she would have rather been shopping because all the did was nothing and her best explanation a lot of NR's applied and changed the odds of drawing. I explained to here that all the NR's and residents are in the same pool and that it had no bearing on my question. Besides, how many NR's do you know that apply for a late spring turkey tag? Finally after her admitting she had no idea why I did not draw she said she would pass my name and number on to Amber Munig. Poor Amber, the people under her do not understand the draw and how it works so they have to pass everything on to her. This is the 3rd time they couldn't explain something to me and eventually transfer my question to her. I used to be a computer programmer for a large saving and loan company in Dallas, TX. When I was hired right out of college the first thing they did was have me sign up for some night classes on banking and financial institutions. They thought it was important for ALL their employees to understand the ins and out of the business that provided their living. It would make them a better employee. I'm guessing many of the people that work at G&F don't really understand what they are doing and how the draw really works.

When I first started bow hunting in the late 70's archery deer would open the day after thanksgiving. We would hunt just about every weekend from that point on and the deer always seemed to be herded up with big bucks chasing does around. We mostly hunted 17a, 17B and unit 10. We sure had a lot fun chasing them even though we never got one. We were young and dumb but having the time of our livesand I've been hooked ever since. Over the last 15-20 years seems like I don't see much rutting activity until after Christmas where I hunt

Would like to hear the details and any info he would like to share. I drew the 33 late hunt this year and plan on scouting the 3 weekends prior to my hunt. Never stepped foot in the unit but I am really looking forward to seeing new country and the new challenge. I have been shooting the 25-06 quite a bit and feel pretty comfortable out to about 400 yards. Conditions would have to be just right for me to shoot much further.

Man I love this time of year and opening day. Brings back some great memories I hope I never forget. Unfortunately, my hunt isn't until later in the year. I still may head up to my old stomping grounds in 17a this weekend. I do get to take my nephew on his first ever deer hunt next month. Lucky turd has a late 12a west tag. Good luck to everyone headed out this weekend.

In the proposed amendments to article's I & III you can read about the intent of the members club. I believe it is in pages 8-10, G&F clearly defines the members club proposal as method to raise funds for the department. When they get virtually no funding from the state's general fund coffers they need to think out of the box. I understand they have expenses and those expenses increase all the time. However, so do ours. Everyone raises fees and costs but my ability to pay them has not increased. In fact, I make substantially less today than I did 8 years ago. I wish the department would make cuts in their budgets like we have all been forced to do over the last few years. Start letting people go through attrition unless it is a vital position. The Department admin offices appear to be growing all the time but I see very few "boots on the ground" folks. I know this is speculation on my part but they used the run the department out of the Greenway offices and by their own admission, the number of hunters and fishermen is declining. The departments non-game branch has grown by leaps and bounds over last 15-20 years yet they bring in no funds. Stop getting bigger because it is not sustainable and it is totally dependent upon raising costs for their customers, the hunters and fishers. Because of this, and mere principle I am against the members club idea. I was also at the G&F meetings when this was discussed and I did not hear one person say they supported the idea of a members club. I will admit, the idea of joining a membership club to reinstate your BP's was never proposed or even discussed at the meeting I attended. They were just floating around some ideas that really had no value because all the information was already on the portal and it was free so why would anyone pay to join was the consensus from the audience. This recommendation now, is a totally new idea. However, I do support the idea of surrendering a tag ONCE per genus over a lifetime and get your bonus points reinstated. I personally have made a mistake on an application and lost 7 or 8 points on a hunt that could have easily been drawn with 2. My sister tore her ligaments in her knee just before her 5B rifle antelope hunt and was unable to go so I know first hand that "life happens" and we should not be punished for it. Better write the department to let them know your thoughts & concerns. Page 2 has Amber Munig's contact info and email addresses to write to. Good Luck

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Anyone know how I could find the fair market value of a Thompson Contender? It is the satin finish, walnut pistol grip/forearm along with two 14" satin barrels. One is a .223 and the other is a 7mm TCU. I still have some hand loads and brass in the 7mm TCU caliber. Comes with a matching satin scope, rings and shoulder holster. I will have to search for them but I still have dies for the 7mm TCU. The gun has just sat in my safe for the last 8-10 years.

Late December.

December unit 33 for me. Will be first time ever to set foot in the unit.

Might as well get back to work. Results will not be available until tomorrow.

I'm assuming you have your loyalty point ("after 5 years without a deer tag") and your hunter safety point since your son has his. This being said you had a minimum of 7 points going into this years draw. If I'm correct then you drew the 3a/3c hunt. Last year everyone with 7 or more points had 100% draw odds. Seven points puts you in the 20% pass and they didn't even look at your first choice. Congratulations because it looks like you and your son are going to have some quality time together come this October. If you had 6 or less points going into draw you have a 1.3% chance of drawing 13B. If this is the case, I have heard nothing but good things about Matt Schimberg. Good Luck

I have a pop up camper and I just opened it up and I noticed something ate away one of the corners. Does anyone know or recommend someone who does good work at a reasonable price? Looks like the front piece and drivers side are going to need replaced. Would like to get this done over the next 2-3 weeks. This is a 2006 pop-up starcraft cabover camper. Model is a Pine Mountain Thanks John

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I try to obey rules and laws. That being said, if a road is not visibly marked closed, I may take it. If they want to close roads, put signs on them. Might not keep everyone out but most will adhere. Through out my nearly 36 years of driving I rarely ever take a road that does not have a road number on it. Excluding unit 10 because the majority of the roads are not marked but I haven't I stepped foot in that unit since 2006. As far as camping goes, 30 feet from a road is too close IMO. Not safe if you have kids or pets and the dust is ridiculous. If I get a ticket I will not try to get off on a technicality either. I will not be happy about it but I will not blame anyone else. Civil Disobedience. It worked for Gandhi and MLK.

Been there and done that before. I sold my 6" Colt Python and my Remington 700 BDL 22-250 my senior year in college just to pay bills. I regret it to this day. I don't think I will every find another Python like mine. Good Luck

I rarely use the tent awning. When I do I have had better luck tying it onto a normal stand alone awning to extend my covered area. I have never had a problem with water getting in the tent. The tents have always stayed dry from rain, snow and condensation. I always put a ground tarp down before I put the tent down even though they have heavy duty rubberized floors. I do this mainly for two reasons: 1. prevents pine needles from poking holes in the floor and 2. it keeps the tent much cleaner. I always keep an old rug in the back of my truck bed and I use it in front of the door to keep it cleaner inside. Usually use a 4X6 rug on the inside to keep feet from getting cold. I have found it better to stake down the tent all the way around (not too tight) before I put the poles and stand it up. Good Luck

G&F only update the points report 3 times per year. After the elk/antelope draw in March, after the fall deer draw in July and finally after the spring draw in November. Your hunter safety point will appear once results are posted in a week or two. Good Luck

A agree with what everyone has said so far. Great tents that are well made, easy for one person to put up, and built to last. I have the 10X10 & 10X14. There aren't too many things that I encourage people to buy but this is one item that I regularly do. The 10X10 is great for two cots and the 10X14 for three. Good luck finding one because most people hold on to them.

bgshooter I replied to PM

I have two Remington youth model 870's and I would be willing to sale one of them. Both are 20 gauges, one is the black nylon stock & the other is the traditional wood stock. I bought them for my kids to shoot but now they are all grown up. I still have one daughter who is 5' foot tall and less than 100 lbs so I want to keep one of them. Each one is in good condition with less than 200 rounds through them. $200 I live in north Peoria 623-680-4458 John

Bob, It is fun to see your excitement about your hunt and your eventual permanent return to the great state of AZ. We all expect lots of pictures and a write up once it all happens. I once moved away to Dallas TX thinking the grass is greener. Boy, was I wrong. You can say whatever you want about AZ but I was never so happy to return to this great place in which I was born and bred.

I am very happy for your family and the dog. This is great news. About 25 years ago my mother and father went on a vacation back east. My dad had a queensland heeler and he asked me to watch it for him at my house while they were gone. I lived around 67th ave and Camelback at the time and this was the first time the dog had ever been to my house. Dad lived at 115th ave Southern in Tolleson. His dog broke through our wood gate on a Friday and I looked all over for the dog. Even went to parents house each day to no avail. The following Thursday I got a phone call from my parents neighbor and he told me the dog showed up and was waiting at the their front door. It took the dog six days to figure out where he was and how to get back home. I currently have a queensland and they are the smartest dogs I have ever been around. My only complaint about them is that they want to do and go everywhere with you. If I get up to go to the jon, she follows me. As I type this she is laying at my feet.

Just curious. Were you actually speeding and now trying to get off on a technicality or were you not exceeding the speed limit and actually believe you are innocent of all charges?

Hoyt Rintec has been claimed.