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It will be impossible to prove. But that’s what bugs me. We know when you check the images from the SD card, you skip right TF over pictures of does and coyotes and other wildlife and take pause on those pictures of big bucks and bulls. Then you go to the next camera and see if there’s any of the same bucks, then you note the time stamp and get on google earth and try to think like a Deer. To me that is using cameras to take. It could also mean people actually use the cameras to take. You would have to be good to kill one with a plastic camera by smacking it over the head or delivering some other trauma by repeated blows to to animal.

It’s kind of funny in a way. Definitely a first world problem. Our hunting is not at stake, just getting pictures and it’s driving some crazy. Don’t get me wrong, I have my share of cameras and about 14 are out there now and I can’t wait to see what’s on them. What I don’t like is every tank covered and people telling themselves they don’t use them to target big animals. Just be honest about it. That’s what I use them for. I don’t have a permit, but when I do, I think I will have narrowed down a few places.

It might help to define what recreational use is? Do all of those guides install them because of outdoor recreation enthusiasm or is there another purpose? Could they be looking for big bucks and how often and which places they water? That’s what I do with cameras. I shoot many different guns recreationally. Some of those guns will never see a big game or varmint hunt. It’s pretty easy to see the recreation there, it’s more difficult to see the recreation in cameras. I guess I could see it if you had cameras in a unit that you didn’t have a connection to a big game hunt with friends or family.

I was taught growing up that you should have at least the following guns- a nice 22lr bolt action a nice 22lr pistol, revolver and semi a shotgun a varmint rifle a deer rifle. Those were the basics. We had more like a few lever actions, semi auto 22lr rifles and tons of pistols. the cartridges were always up to debate. Usually the common cartridges came up like the .270 and 30-06 for the deer rounds. For the varmints, it was usually the 243, or the 223. Later in life I think having a Magnum is nice. I started with a 300 RUM and had it built into a 300 WBY and have been very happy with that decision. Now I find I’m buying more of the novelty type of guns like the 6.5 Creedmoor, 22K Hornet, 280 AI, 22 WMR and planning on a 221 fireball and 338-06 Ackley Improved in the next 3 years. The 30-06 Ackley is starting to look good to me too.

That’s another thing I forgot to mention about how it was 30 years ago. Back then, ranchers near my town NEVER locked up anything. Maybe a few gates like ones with access in the city limits. I remember it well because it was my job as a passenger to open the gates. But now all of them have it locked up tighter than a drum. You’re right, it’s because there’s no respect anymore.

They are great rifles. I had all of my firsts with my dad’s 722 Roberts. I can still remember my first Coyote. Whenever we would go out hunting/ shooting my dad would tell me which guns to load up in the truck. “Grab the Roberts” he would say. That’s what we called it back then. I still have it. I watched him make incredible shots with it too at things like running coyotes and rabbits. It was also the first thing I used to shoot long range. Back then, 500 yards was really far. But it was capable.

Keep looking. I hope it works out for you, especially for the 725. It’s nice to read about someone that’s interested in something besides a Savage or Ruger American.

That’s the unknown I keep thinking about. What I see now was unimaginable 30 years ago. How weird it will be 30 years from now. I know the future has not been good to a few of my hunting areas. Some have been cut up into Windmills, potash exploration, juniper munching, and more 40 acre maggots. Top that off with the areas not getting any good rain and the future looks depressing. I honestly think it’s too late to do anything about cameras. Too many will think this is a game law that doesn’t apply to them. It should have been nipped in the butt 15 yeas ago. We are too spoiled now and so full of our privilege.

I like cameras. It’s always a unique surprise to check the cameras and find something nice. It could even be a good picture of a bird. I think in some areas trail cam pictures of a big buck will doom him and I’m not sure that’s what hunting should be. I can’t help but to think about the future when these topics come up like game cameras, long range shooting, outfitting, and online egos with Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, websites etc.. None of these were talked about or considered problems 30 years ago. I know there are more guides now than there were then. What will it be like in another 30 years and 4,000,000 more people later?

My brother in law has one of these. I don’t remember which one but it’s high quality. I know they’re expensive, but you feel where the money went. I’m not a serious shotgun guy or I would definitely buy one of these. It will last a lot longer than the others I hear. Over/under guns seem like the type that give problems unless it’s a high end. I’ve experienced that on others that I’ve been around. https://gueriniusa.com/gun-type/field-guns/

I’ve seen a lot of Scaled up in north eastern AZ this year. I remember in the 80s seeing a lot and they disappeared from about 1999 til about a few years ago. Outdoor Writer, have you ever hunted them around Holbrook, St Johns, or Springerville?

I saw this. What made him shoot her? He doesn’t look like the type that has warrants, mental instability, or even dangerous. WTF went through his head?

I sort of understand the idea of checking their ID. All you can gain from that is to confirm their age. No way of knowing if they’re a dangerous felon unless you check their background. In that case, a paper trail will hurt you. It proves you willingly sold to an unknown person. I don’t know what the right thing to do is. I made deals before in parking lots and buy in stores where I’m run through the system. If it worries you, the best thing is to send it to a FFL. I don’t have problems with people that do that either. The problem with that is that everyone out there is cheap. You see it all the time where people post here they’re looking for a Ruger American or Savage or another inexpensive gun. New these are around $350. Used, who knows? All you know is they’re looking for bottom dollar and probably freak out at paying $250 and then another $35 for a background check. If I was asked for a copy of my ID, I would ask for a copy of theirs too. I think that’s fair. Maybe trade photos of the plates, vehicles and each other’s face. Make it really fair.

Not really just a Phoenix thing, but do you guys remember Night Tracks on TBS?

I remember Organ Stop and Pistol Pete’s. My dad had a plane and we would sometimes fly into Deer Valley or Falcon Field airport and rent a cheap car to do our running around. The car rental place was called Rent-A-Wreck. It was usually a 10+ year old vehicle. One of the coolest things was when we would go to the restaurant at the Hyatt Recengy. I was 6 or 7 years old and just marveled at that place as it rotated. I haven’t been there for 35 years.

It happened to me for the first time this year. It happened to everyone that day like the two ahead of me. At first, it was embarrassing because I know I’m good to go. Then I realized just about everyone was delayed. I went back the next day at 2pm and picked up the gun.

I have a hard time buying a gun unless it’s face to face. I wish I didn’t have that problem. I know a lot of people that buy guns off of photos they see in Gunbroker and never felt ripped off, but I can’t. I have to see it before I give up the money. The guns I would like from there are over 3k, so it’s worth a look to me. I bought and sold guns and it’s usually in the Sportsman’s Warehouse parking lot. If you’re worried about a setup, have an armed friend in another vehicle stand by.

I was really young, ages 5-9. I think they were around Bell Road. Orange trees were a cool thing for a northern az person.

I think vacationing in San Diego is the law for Arizona people.

I didn’t grow up in Phoenix, but being an Arizona native, I would come down for school shopping, doctor appointments, and visiting relatives at least twice a year. I remember the orange trees on 17 and Ladmo bags. There were only 2 million or so people back then and the only area code for the whole state was 602. I think the oranges were ornamental and didn’t taste good.

I’ve found that communication is very important. Before you send an email, reread it to yourself a few times and use whatever is in the tool bar to help you like spelling and grammar. Send to someone else that’s smarter than you to review it before you send. I’ve done that many times. When explaining things, look into their eyes, you can tell a lot about their understanding. I’ve found that some people need to have things explained two or three different ways before they understand. You will find there are people that are ask assertive and tell assertive. I’m ask assertive, if someone asks me to do something, it’s the same as them telling me to do something. It sometimes helps to ask them to repeat what you said if you’re worried about their understanding. Watch your language. It helps if you are one that doesn’t throw the big f word every day. When you use it right, it drives a point home. I’m sure a few here that are leaders/bosses know someone that doesn’t have a filter. It doesn’t help if you’re trying to be a professional.

I know. I’ve always wanted to swap an old motor with a newer one. I had an International Scout and I was planning on doing a LS swap but I figured out time was an issue. Not so much money because it would take a few years but I’m not as patient as I once was and I’m not willing to cut back my time in the field. You two should have a good time with this project. I’m surprised a girl is into that. I have lots of respect for her.

Ruger Single Six or Nine. I have the 9. For rifles, I have a Cooper model 57. Anschutz has one as well. They’re bolt actions but really nice. They’re pricey, but for your dad go all in.

Hey, I’m on your side.