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From Title 43 Special Permits Dept of Interior 2932.14 ( ... providing services to hunters, trappers, or anglers must obtain Special Recreation Permits from BLM. Appendix E: Special Recreation Permit Stipulations for Outfitters and Guides A current insurance policy must be maintained that provides for the minimum levels of liability insurance ($500,000 bodily injury for any one person, $1,000,000 annual aggregate, and $30,000 property damage for any one occurrence) are in effect. Your policy must name the United States Government, as additionally insured and stipulate that you or your insurer will notify BLM at least 30 calendar days in advance of termination or modification of such insurance.

The OP said he wanted to "help glass". That's aiding in the taking of wildlife. If you want to help pack and profit from that on any federal land, you need insurance, special use permit and licensed in that state if one is needed. Simply put, the feds fear being sued. If you're insured, the insurance co. handles litigation and knowing your financially responsible puts Uncle Sam at ease. As far as I interpret the AZ statutes, AZ does not differentiate between guiding and outfitting. I've been looking at every angle of the law for sometime, as I do outfitting. I don't want to be in the position of defending AZ law, they wrote it not me. But I do understand the rational behind it even if I don't like it. If you've found a legal and responsible way of circumventing the law as I've read it time and time again, you'll have my gratitude.

Sounds like a lot of fun, but under AZ statutes, you'd need a Guide License for what you described. Have you read the definition of a 'Guide' in the state of AZ? Their term for guide is fairly all inclusive in it's ambiguity but your only out may be to act as a serpa that works for free. Any compensation would be considered "pay." ARS 17-362 R12 4 208 A guide license issued from the Arizona Game and Fish Department is required for any person who, for pay, aids or assists another in the taking of wildlife in Arizona. If you're doing what you described on Federal Lands, you'll need a lot more than a license; special use permit, insurance and a possible bond. And the feds won't give you that permit without demonstrating experience as a guide. However, the feds will let you act as a guide or outfitter w/o license so long as you don't 'profit' in the endeavor, but you can be compensated for your expenses. However, that doesn't mean you won't need an AZ Guide license. Confused yet?

To the lady driver; Inciting others to behave badly should not be cause for celebration. You got your 10 minutes of fame, now sloth back into your dark, dank hole, watch soaps and bury your jowls back into a box of Bon-Bons where you have little effect on others. Dude in the truck; Is this your first time driving? Grow the heck up and try decaf. Had you injured some one with your adolescent driving inabilities, you should be shot without benefit of a blindfold. As for me, I drive in a bubble of joy and harmony.

We hound lovers question why the good Lord chooses to take our four legged buddies so soon. Seems they're here just long enough to train us on how much we should enjoy life, show undying love, patience and comfort us when we are down. Then in the blink of an eye they race ahead and cross that bridge. So when that day comes when we can join them again, they'll be anxiously waiting to show us the best spots in heavens fields to flush those quail and travel down easy trails thru gentle streams and tall cool grass.

very sorry for your loss

I've been listening to KTAR in the shop, AM radio is a no go with the lights. So I'm driving yesterday with KTAR on and the commentators start whipping up hysteria over whether or not this plane could be used someday to attack the USA. I wanted to reach thru the radio and slap the airway morons for their ignorance on the topic of radar and their inability to find facts. Mostly, there is no flying under US radar, we have it covered. I joined the USAF at the end of the Carter Admin. (now the second worst president in US History) Trained to operate the FPS-77 radar, and old but excellent unit that was actually a B-52 air to air radar and was scavenged for USAF WX stations to interrogate cloud formations. After weather school, I was sent as an aid to the chief meteorologists for NORAD 26th Air Defense HQ. Once there, I spent the next several years training on radar systems from ground and flight control to tactical and Doppler (And at NORAD I did get to see the BIG MAP . We Americans are fortunate that our hard work and love of freedom has built the best military on the planet. Any aircraft, big or small, entering US airspace is interrogated, long before it reaches our soil. If that aircraft is not talking back to us, interceptors are scrambled for a visual and more than likely, forced down or if need be, taken down. Thanks for letting me vent.

We are hearing that several countries may or may not have seen the plane on their radar. I can assure you, if an unidentified echo appeared on an American radar, it would be a big, big deal and the sighting would be brought to a favorable conclusion. Because some of these countries are so relaxed with airport security and air control, they're not allowed to fly here. I've flown to China and the Philippines many times, often at bargain rates on a milk run. Lucky to still be here, but what an education. Hoping the families of the passengers and crew find peace.

Here's what I think happened, it's pretty boring compared to some of the theories . Fire on board, communications capabilities lost. Pilot turns back and takes the plane up to 45,000 to extinguish the fire. Navigation systems fried, pilot is using celestial navigating and looking for a suitable landing spot. None found, eventual splash.

The transponders are onboard and squawking for the safety of the aircraft. But that transponder signal had to relate to a specific aircraft (tail numbers), on a preapproved and filed corresponding flight plan. Here's how it worked at NORAD decades ago when I was a young buck. Airman stood at a mostly coastal map of the US that was the size of a theater screen. The 26th Air Defense entailed the airspace from El Paso TX to Vancouver, BC. Every blip that occurred on that radar map that was heading in to US airspace, had a cursor placed on it. Instantly a window would appear giving the aircrafts speed, heading and elev. All aircraft coming into our airspace must have a flight plan on file and the planes ID will show up in that window when interrogated. No flight plan, no tail numbers appearing in the box, the nearest fighter interceptors are launched to make a visual, friend or foe. Not sure what the protocol was as far as the decision deciding on forcing the offending aircraft down or splashing it.

Thanks for the kind words. But when I compare my stint in the service to others, I'm truly humbled. My kids too have served, son is a marine combat vet and daughter retrieved wounded marines off the field in Iraq. They are my heroes.

Looks like the topic been pretty well covered here. My 2nd deer kill was well over 400 yards when I was just a kid, and I'd take that shot again today. I was so accurate with that Win. Model 88 that it felt like an extension of my arm. But what differentiates me from a lot of hunters is, I will track an animal for as long as it takes (so far have only had to track others wounded animals). If you decide you are capable of that long, long shot, it takes a commitment. Once an animal is hit, you'd better consider it yours. Don't relent in it's pursuit, and the thought of taking a more convenient animal that may present itself along the way, should never enter into the equation. My uncle was a punk and highly unethical. Once when I was a kid hunting in the White Mountains, the mule deer were migrating. The uncle already had a small buck but got so excited as I was preparing a shot, that he took my rifle and shot at a big buck, hitting him low in the gut. My dad kicked his brothers butt and sent him home crying. Me, dad and another backwoodsman tracked that buck for two days. But on the third day, the coyotes had been tracking him also and tore him apart. As for my uncle? Recently learned the old fart just had a mastectomy. Yes, I spelled that right. Karma?

My dad would be proud, Sir. He grew up in the depression in W. PA and he has shared his love of squirrel pot pie with me on many occasion. Back when we were deer hunting together, he'd want to tag the first deer so he could spend the rest of the hunt shooting squirrel.

Headlines: Rare Squirrel Made Rarer Rare Squirrel Found by Nut Endangered Squirrel No More Nut and Squirrel Clash Protected Squirrel Needed Protection

HAha, ol Mike is a good guy but why the trepidation? He's got good insurance and I'll keep him covered with my 12ga. Oh and there's always a roll of vet wrap and bag balm in my saddle bags. No guts no glory. Or is it, Lots of Guts, Lots of Gory?

never heard of El Corral. Growing up in Tucson, always went to OK Corral or Pinnacle Petes when we wanted to embarrass someone.

Now we just need you to put your big boy pants on and use the caller at night. So you might get mauled a little, but the pay offs could be big, too.

most likely the horse, mules atract wild game wild and gamey for sure

Should be titled 'First Time E Calling' We did some calling a while ago with a hand held blower and though I poured my heart and soul into the caller and had to wipe away tears to look thru my rifle scope, nothing came in but a couple scared hikers. Got to wonder if having horse and mule tied up below our stand made a difference.

problem is, if they're headed to Mexico, they don't need to use the port of entry. Traffickers own land on both sides of the border. Had a friend from Mexico want to buy some horses from me and told him the vet fees and paperwork would be a nightmare. Not so, he said. Got a brother with a ranch on both sides of the border and they would just walk them across. They didn't need no stinking papers.

I know who has the best steaks in town, me. Below is Moorak Obrahma, and I can't wait to smell his ribeyes grilling over a mesquite fire. He and his buddies will be served up next winter as we host outback trail rides and cook gourmet meals. It's like having steaks in the sticks. https://www.facebook.com/DinnerandaRide Far as brick and mortar goes, Monti's steaks are corn and grass fed beef flown in from Nebraska. Just don't get caught taking any silverware. Michael Monti is a third degree blackbelt in the American Kenpo Karate Assoc. Last time he and I squared off on the mat, his warrior face alone was rather unsettling

It was a big, big bobcat and he's still out there. When I first saw him coming in, I thought I was looking at a young lion. His stubby tail must have been 8-10" long. That partial daytime pic and the night time pics of the cat at the water tank were taken in the same spot, but they are 2 different kitties.

Anyone been out to the Agua Fria since the rain let up? I'm looking to get some horses across it if there aint too much flow or mud.

In case anyone cares, me and Mike the MulePackHuntere guy are good buds, but I wish he'd stop smiling whenever my horse goes to buckin' Was reminded of a cool resource in the event your plans include any river crossings... http://waterdata.usgs.gov/az/nwis

I earned my stripes as a USAF Meteorologist but in my private time, I did climatology studies for private companies including what is now Morton's Salt, searching for practical brine evaporation locales in the southwest like we have here in Glendale. We have such little empirical data to go by, the suggestion of Man Made Global Warming evidence makes me throw up in my mouth. We have been keeping weather data for only a couple hundred years. We can look at tree rings and take polar ice core samples, but it will only produce a smidgen of data from this planets long, long history and it only serves to prove the earth's climate cycles with or without us. This being said, we need to conserve what water we have here in the DESERT, and keep finding new ways to reserve water for the future. Look at your water bill sometime and ask yourself why you need tens of thousands of gallons per month?