AZBearhunter

Read up on the regulations dates for OTC archery hunts. 37A is not open in December it is only open in January. 37B is open December/January. Neither 37A/37B are open in August. Also 38M (tucson city limits) is not open in August, only in Dec/January. 33 is the only unit that you mentioned that is open in Aug as well as Dec/Jan. You are correct, 33 has seen a decline in large buck numbers, due to the fact that EVERYONE hammers the unit for Muley's. However, the fact remains that the overall Mule Deer numbers are not down in 33. There are more doe's than ever, and more smaller bucks, but the Big Bucks are seldom seen because they have been driven out and hunted to extinction. If you are curious about deer numbers in the 37s it is hard to gauge because most deer live in the flats, therefore, it is hard to guess the population totals. Good luck.

Correction, you need a import permit. Costs about $140.00 and that permit covers fox, coyotes, quail, etc? You'll need to specify what your importing when you submit your request with Fish and Wildlife. In all honesty it is a pain in the butt, and would never consider importing fox or coyote when we have millions in the U.S. Something unique like the Elegant or Banded quail that only live in Mexico would justify the legalities and cost of importing. If you want more info check the U.S. Fish and Wildlife under the Import/Export section. Also look at U.S. Customs, they may have regulations that differ from U.S. F&W. Very complex system. Good luck. Your best bet is to talk to someone that outfits in Mexico and knows the exact steps for importing. They'll set you up. It will cost you some change.

The last thing I would add is specific to your last comment. Cameras, I have learned in the last 4 weeks, improves a hunters education dramatically about the environment. There is so many things to learn from looking at the pictures you have captured. If we are all being true to improving the animal population, taking mature animals, etc. than what better way than to let a 280" bull walk because you are "educated" to the fact that there are more mature animals to harvest? Likewise, if you learn an area is under populated, make a decision not to hunt there and move on....your analogy suggests cameras are responsible for harvesting big animals as if it a bad thing? How about the twenty or so 2 and 3 year old animals that get to live another year because of the education a camera provided? Lastly, a camera is not a substitution for scouting, etc. I still think this is essential as well. wow you really took that personal. I received a lot of likes for that post so I'm not alone in my thoughts. I'm sure I'm from another generation of hunters and we did it all on our ownI'm jumping in on this one...you did it all on your own? What'd u choke your game to death? You never bought a better performing rifle or a nicer set of glass? All of us hunters do things to improve our odds. Cams are no different. GreenMachine you hit it on the money. 1shot if you are claiming that cameras are the reason that more big trophy animals are being killed then why don't we also look at the fact that technology has made better equipment that everyone uses and not just focus on cameras alone. What about high powered rifles and scope by which "hunters" shot there game at further distances (up to 1000 yards)? Ever think about this? How about the increased use of high powered optics and GPS gadgets? How about the increase in dedicated, passionate and hardworking hunters that go the extra mile to harvest a mature animal? How about that fact that some ppl are LUCKY, and the fact that there has been an increased use of outfitters to harvest trophy animals. You make it sound like trail cameras ALONE are the reason for the increase trophy harvest, which by the way how are you coming up with this information that more trophies are being killed?? Some of the biggest trophy animals were killed 50 plus years ago, and they were killed all the time. What has changed is how information spreads. Whenever someone kills a trophy now a days, everyone hears about it so it may seem as if more trophies are being killed. Are there more trophy animals being taken now compared to previous years? Perhaps...but there are also more hunters now then before. If there indeed are more trophies being killed each year, trust me its not because of cameras, its due to a huge combination of factors. Cameras are a tool, just like 15x56 swarovskis, vortex scopes, GPS, quads, maps, high powered rifles, compound bows... they are all tools that help us reach a higher potential as hunters. As mklong40 said, there is EXTREME Ignorance when it comes to people talking about the use of trail cameras. Do ppl really believe that just by putting a camera out you are going to have immediate results and a trophy buck is just going to appear? Most of the time you get nothing. People don't realize the amount of work that goes into utilizing a camera. You have to scout the area first and locate the game before you even put the camera out. I am no one to say that one mans style of hunting is better then the next; as long as it is ethical and legal. Last I checked, camera are still legal. Therefore, please respect the hard work and hunting methods that others use even if they do not aline with yours. 1shot this is not an attack nor do I take it personal, just making a point based on your arguments. P.S. Your comment of "I received a lot of likes for that post so I'm not alone in my thoughts." You only had 1 like when I checked. Yup sounds like a lot to me.

Coverts are a good deal and take good pictures, but the quality of the HD Bushnell is better due to the 8mp camera. The activation speed and battery life are also better, and I usually pay the same of what you would for a Covert. If your interested in taking videos with a trail camera the Bushnell Trophy Cam 8mp HD is the way to go. If you just want good pictures the Covert does a good job. I've owned almost every camera on the market, I really like Bushnell thats why I have 12!

I hate the two HD MAX cameras I have. I love the regular HD model, the HD MAX model is crappy. Structurally the difference between the two is that the IR lights on the MAX are covered with a black lens making them not as visible when it takes a picture at nighttime, therefore for security/surveillance purposes it is a good feature so that a thief/person doesn't see the IR red flash. But for field use the Max is unwarranted. The MAX takes poorer quality pictures and is a lot bigger and heavier then the regular 8mp HD. Also the MAX required 12 batteries, while the regular HD only requires 8. I usually buy the regular HD model for $100-120. Trust me I have 12 Bushnell Cameras, and the MAX is my least favorite, I'd trade my MAX in any day for the regular HD. Just my two cents. Good luck. SEE BELOW, the difference in dimension, weight and in the amount of batteries. All of this just so animals don't see you IR light??? If your using it for security then maybe I see the justification. Bushnell Trophy Cam 8mp HD MAX Product Dimensions: 12 x 12 x 12 inches ; 1.2 pounds Shipping Weight: 1.2 pounds Item model number: 119577C Batteries 12 AA batteries required. Bushnell Trophy Cam 8mp HD Product Dimensions: 7.2 x 9.8 x 2.6 inches ; 7.2 ounces Shipping Weight: 15.2 ounces Item model number: 119447C Batteries 8 AA batteries required.

Correction, you need a import permit. Costs about $140.00

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This year I had over 2,000 mountain lion pictures combined on several of my cameras. Many lions LOVE this spot and frequent it almost on a daily bases. Napping is an ordinary thing I see in my pictures. Ill be sitting here in 2014 with a lion tag in my pocket. I just added more pictures! Enjoy.

I wish I knew, the following pictures did not show what happened. Either the skunk ran for the hills, or the lion got sprayed.

The cycle of life. A friend of mine who hunts lions a lot, told me that lions LOVE to eat skunks. He said if you can smell skunk odor when your out in the wilderness, good chances are that a lion just killed it. He told me many lions that he's killed smelled like skunk. Skunks only spray when they are threatened. Bonus pic: Doe vs Doe!

Great idea if your really interested in what's going on in a specific area. However be mindful of theives. Camera theft is a disease that's has become a pandemic! I've lost 3 cameras just this year, and I know it was other "hunters" that found them and stole them. Therefore, be smart and strategic in regards to camera placement and location. Regardless of how far you hike your camera is never safe unless its hidden. I had a camera stolen that was 3 miles into a remote area! Also be persistent, you will have more camera failures then successes. It's not just as simple as buying a camera and setting it up. Know what your camera can do, and place it were you think the most animals with concentrate or move throw. Best of luck! If you have any specific questions, ask away.

I had this Tom several times on camera, in multiple locations. Im guessing him at about 130-140lbs, a good mature Arizona Tom. I think his about 5-6 years old and has definitely seen his share of fights. If you notice he is missing his right ear. Enjoy. (These photos are the property of AZBearhunter). I had an opportunity to hunt mt. lion with dry hounds this year in March for the first time, it was an absolute BLAST! It is such an exciting and suspenseful hunt, I highly recommend it! If you are interested in hunting mountain lions with dry hounds, inbox me and I will set you up with one of the best dry hounds-man in Arizona (i'll provide details). There are many TOMs like this one out there, the only thing you need is a pack of dogs! Camera used: Bushnell Trophy Cam HD 8mp

Nope, never got a picture of them eating on the skull. That skull was there when I originally found the spot, which was around March, so it has been there for a while. However, within a 100 yard proximity I would always usually find a deer kill when going to check my camera. I did get a picture of this deer getting killed.

You can bet money that I will be killing a lion every year from now on! Hiking the country to go check one of my cameras this year I came face-to-face with a nice lion at about 20 yards. The lion was in a mine shaft on the bank of the wash that I was walking down, and I happened to look just in time to see the lion crouch so I wouldnt see it. I drew my side arm and waited in a Mexican stand off. The lion bolted after about 30 seconds. I had already filled my lion tag for the year, otherwise, I would have shot. multiple bag limits in some areas...just need another tag. James Unfortunately I wasn't in a unit were multiple bag limits apply, otherwise I'd have two lions for the year of 2013. that blows... send those pics to the officer in your unit... hope you get to smoke another 1. did you process the meat or give it away? James I would gladly share my photos with the Game Manager of the Unit, however, I don't trust anyone with this specific kind of information. If I show the pictures, then I'll most likely be asked to provide the location. I appreciate the suggestion though. I'll just say that there are more lions out there then most people believe (As you can see in my many pictures). Mountain lion meat is the best! I ate all in less then a month. Manny.

I bet you'll never guess where I'll be sitting in July of 2014?? Bow in hand, tag in pocket.

You can bet money that I will be killing a lion every year from now on! Hiking the country to go check one of my cameras this year I came face-to-face with a nice lion at about 20 yards. The lion was in a mine shaft on the bank of the wash that I was walking down, and I happened to look just in time to see the lion crouch so I wouldnt see it. I drew my side arm and waited in a Mexican stand off. The lion bolted after about 30 seconds. I had already filled my lion tag for the year, otherwise, I would have shot. multiple bag limits in some areas...just need another tag. James Unfortunately I wasn't in a unit were multiple bag limits apply, otherwise I'd have two lions for the year of 2013.

You can bet money that I will be killing a lion every year from now on! Hiking the country to go check one of my cameras this year I came face-to-face with a nice lion at about 20 yards. The lion was in a mine shaft on the bank of the wash that I was walking down, and I happened to look just in time to see the lion crouch so I wouldnt see it. I drew my side arm and waited in a Mexican stand off. The lion bolted after about 30 seconds. I had already filled my lion tag for the year, otherwise, I would have shot.

I did not put it there. There was many bones around the area, and the skull was at the location higher up on the bank, it must have either slid down or was moved by one of the lions. I did get a lion killing a deer on camera, and there are multiple kills in the area.

All you need is an out of state (non-resident) license which is $151.25 and your over the counter lion tag with is $225. These prices are only for 2013. Prices are going to change in 2014. The non-resident license cost has not been specified for 2014, but I doubt it will increase much given that the cost of a resident license will go up by $4.75 for 2014. The interesting thing is that the cost of an non-resident over the counter lion tag for 2014 with only be $75. If you want to hunt Mountain lion in AZ and want a reference for a dry hound outfitter, shot me an inbox, I know the best outfitter in the Southwest and you will get yourself a really nice Lion. Hunter success in 100%. Other then hunting with hounds, the chances of harvesting a lion are slim depending on your hunting methods.

Muleskinner, have you ever been around a house cat? They act very similarly to mt. lions except for the fact that house cats don't hunt there food down. Most felines are mostly nocturnal and will spend most of there day time hours sleeping and resting. All animals have to rest and sleep at some point.

I counted somewhere around 5 lions that were coming in to this spot and an occasional Tom. It doesn't sound like a lot, however, within a 1 mile radius it is a lot. I had other locations with an equal amount of activity and many larger Toms passing through due to the amount of females hanging around. And where in 6A is this? LOL HAHA, I will tell you this, these lion are no where near 6A, try about 250 miles southeast.

Inbox me, Ill put on some turkeys in 33.

I counted somewhere around 5 lions that were coming in to this spot and an occasional Tom. It doesn't sound like a lot, however, within a 1 mile radius it is a lot. I had other locations with an equal amount of activity and many larger Toms passing through due to the amount of females hanging around.

Actually, I have found through the years that the areas were I have found the most lions are the areas with the most deer. The lions are there for a reason, and that reason is food. If there wasn't enough food, they would move on.

I would, but I filled my 2013 tag in March. I think in several of my spots, I can kill a lion every year from now on.