lancetkenyon

Good luck buddy. I want buck photos like last year!

Large in Major Brown. Awesome jacket. I have the same one. Great price too.

Why the long face??

If...IF...the charges are true, I wonder if aiding and abetting, conspiracy to commit, or obstruction charges will be forthcoming to other persons possibly involved or that had knowledge of alleged crimes.

Bump

Bump

Yep, 2017. Non-typical @ 139 2/8", by a member here. Typical is 130 1/8" from 2001. It could very well be a Coues he killed with a bow several years ago...wearing a set of eastern whitetail horns (either real or replicas) in place of it's natural horns. B&C world record is typical 144 1/8", non-typical 196 2/8".

TTT

Bump

Yes you do....yes you do....yes you do....your voices are changing their minds....

Nice! Deer killer down!

TTT

Bump

I see you are in Scottsdale.....I can deliver it tomorrow if that helps....

No time like the present.....I have it on 3 sites, but a local sale would be nice. Comes ready to mount and shoot.

Well buy it then! Anyone who HASN'T looked through an S&B.....DON'T! You will become addicted.

I can knock them out too, if you mail them to me. North central Phoenix area.

If there is no lightning, stay and keep glassing. I have glassed tons of deer and elk moving during the rain. If there is lightning, or you even hear thunder, GTF off the top of the hill, keep your head down, and put down anything metal you are carrying. In 2017, I was elk hunting, and was 1 mile from my truck. Had a storm moving in, and started to hear thunder. Made a beeline for the truck, and glad I did. Had lightning hitting within 100' of the truck for about 45 minutes. And it nailed the hill I was sitting on.

I thought the same thing when I first saw the photos last week. Switch angles on the bulls. Side by side them. Put the Mullins bull in the back. Get photos straight on. Have an official preliminary measure performed. I bet the opinions reverse. But not saying the tapes were not stretched a bit. We shall see in 90 days... I would shoot either one in a heartbeat.

By the way....the dogs are freaking awesome. Real pains in the butt sometimes, but I love them.

This fall/winter. I have been so freaking busy it is unreal. I have rounds loaded to test, just need: time, an open desert, and cooler weather.

Mirage has no impact on barrel accuracy. But it makes a huge impact on perceived POA. Mirage will cause your aim to wander greatly, seemingly causing errant shots, when in actuality, it is just Point of Aim issues. Light direction can cause this as well. Hot barrels can and will definitely cause shots to walk. I usually only shoot 3 shots in 30 minutes or so. When at the range, I always have 2-4 rifles I alternate 3 shot strings between. Let the barrels "cool" (relative term if the barrel is sitting in direct sunlight in 113* temps) between 3 shot strings. I shoot almost every weekend, and it takes me 5-6 hours to shoot 12-18 rounds in each of 3 rifles. I see guys all the time shooting 40 rounds in an hour and wondering why their groups suck. Well, when you shoot 20 rounds in 15 minutes, yeah, POI is going to wander. Let alone the mirage from the barrel screwing with POA.

22....or was it 23?

Seldom, but yes. I have a coworker that lives on the very northeast edge of New River, and he had a pig killed by a bear 3 or 4 years ago.

If you are stuck on 6.5 (which I am not against in the least for antelope/deer/sheep, just not for grizzly), even the fast magnums do not recoil that bad without a brake. No need to load them.down for hunting unless they are not as accurate at the top end. A 7SS or .300SS would be a better choice if grizzly are seriously on the list. If you are in Phoenix, and you want to fondle a couple Manners stocks, let me know. EH1, EH2, PRS2. I would still go for the EH4 for my own lightweight rifle. A good #2 barrel, with proper load development, should shoot just as good as a Proof Sendero Light for the first (and most important) 2-3 shots. A Proof will be stiffer than a #2, so therefore probably easier to tune with a broader node to work in. Every Proof barrel I have shot has been very accurate. But then again, most custom steel barrels have been as well. I have shot three 6.5SAUM, and six 6.5SS in short actions. The 6.5SS was conceived to fit in a true short action better than the SAUM does without seating the bullets into the case as much. Both my 6.5SSs are on short actions. Not mediums. R700SA and Lone Peak Fuzion TI SA. But, the R700 has been cut for a Wyatt's box, and the Lone Peak is set up for one already from the factory. Also, the 6.5SS is cut with .250" freebore to allow seating bullets out, where most 6.5SAUMs are .188" freebore (and some less) if I recall. The 6.5SAUM and 6.5SS are both very accurate. Flip a coin. Both can push a 140gr 3150 if you stand on them, 3200 is not unheard of if you use certain powders. I choose not to use those however. I run a 140 Hybrid @ 3120, a 150 SMK @ 3117, or a 127 LRX @ 3210 in my older 25.5" 1:8" 5R Bartlein #3b fluted 6.5SS. My new 6.5SS only has like 40 rounds down the barrel. 26" 1:7.5" Proof 4 groove. So far, I have gotten the 156 Berger up to 3024fps in the first 21 rounds down the barrel. So far, low .1 to .3s out to 200 in heavy mirage and winds. I tried the 131 Hammer Hunter in it this weekend, and they seem like they are going g to shoot good too. .3s @ 3151 & 3182fps in a barrel that is not broken in and sped up yet.