lancetkenyon

I will be up in 7w with my son-in-law too. Look for a white 4Runner TRD.....hopefully like this. I have been on a ton of late hunts in 7W. From -10* and no snow, to 0* and snow so deep you can't drive, to 55* and sunny hunting in t-shirts, to 30* and rain and mud. And some go from 55* to -5* in 2 days. Prepare for all weather. Don't trust the forecast. Elk will still be at all elevations unless they get hammered with 24"+ of snow weeks before thee hunt. Even with 12" of snow, we have found elk at the highest elevations during Dec. Hunt the stuff away from roads, thick and nasty, steep, almost inaccessible. That is where the bulls will be. Or....flat as a pancake and thick with Junipers. Anywhere 98% of people WON"T go.

Anyone heard about this change in 2020? I have a buddy who screwed up his app, drew a terrible unit with 10BPs that he says he did not apply for (but was more than likely his mistake scrolling during the hunt choice), and is already planning on turning his tag back in with Point Guard. He says a buddy of his (who is dating a G&F worker) told him of a change this year where you do not get the bonus point for the year if you use your Point Guard.

Flatline map & OnX app.

Check unit 10. Good bulls can be had in that unit.

You can only use point guard ONE TIME per species. So you better be pretty particular if you do.

I got it cleared up. NOT TRUE. Thanks guys.

You are going to make friends REAL FAST here. Rossislider is a great guy. And an insanely hard hunter.

Spend the $15/mo, $30/yr for 1 state, or $99/yr for USA, and get OnX. Worth it's weight in gold. Flatline Maps are too.

Buy a Flatline Map. Use OnX Hunt app. Find areas with steep, nasty, thick canyons and zero roads within a mile or more. Hunt there. Find those canyons as early as NOW, and start hiking them looking for sheds. Find elk sign and sheds, and you might find areas the bulls will escape to after they start getting pressured. I don't know 3A/3C, but I would be looking at lower elevations in the Pinon/Juniper areas for a late hunt. Tougher to hunt though. If you DO find a good buck, just take him to some powerlines for the photos.

I clicked "like"...but I am still pissed at you! That is an awesome surprise!

Yeah, I tried 3 times to buy guns from this guy. He kept turning me down for some reason....

I know the winner has been drawn. And he has been contacted. So if you are asking, must not have been you...or me either. But don't worry, there are more amazing rifles coming up in the next few months.

Keep the distance realistic, and it will be just fine. Better than a 6.5CM....

H1000 is my first choice as well. Accurate, cool burning, clean, very temp stable. But, it is impossible to find right now unless you already have some. Hopefully coming back in a few months. RL23 would be my second choice. A bit better speeds than H1000, still does well with temp stability, slightly less charge weights, easier (still not easy) to find, cheaper than H1000 too. Retumbo might work. But again, impossible to find right now. RL26 would be good, but has temp stability issues above 85* F. Good speeds, a bit dirty though. N565, but hard to find right now too. Almost impossible. H4831SC would be OK, easier to find, but might not get the speeds of the others listed. But take what you can get. Fairly temp stable, clean burning, a bit faster burning than all the other mentioned above. IMR 7828SSC works too. Not as temp stable, but not bad. Would be a good choice right now, as it is easy to find. IMR 7977 Enduron if you can find it, Better temp stability than IMR7828SSC, very similar burn rate. Cleaner burning too. Good choice, I have seen it available more than a lot of the others. IMR8133 would be good, but it is no where to be found like many others. I have been searching for a month with no luck.

Ugly, rough, Interarms Mark X in .270 Win. I killed a few deer with it, but family members killed a lot of game with it. I restocked it, muzzle brake, trigger job. Once I got into my first custom, and saw what accuracy they produced, I sold it.

Harley, what twist did you go with? With a .257 Weatherby, I think a 1:8" would be plenty, while a 1:7" might be a bit too fast. Berger has the 115, and I hope they come out with a 130 in the future. Hammer has a 121 and 128 if you have enough twist.

7RM is plenty for elk out to 1000 with the right bullet. I would bet your barrel is a 1:9.25" twist rate, which might limit your bullet choices to take full advantage of heavier, higher BC bullets for the task. I would look at the Berger 175 Elite Hunter with a minimum 1:10" recommendation. I have had great luck with them in other 1:9.25" twist 7mms. Good BC, still fairly high weight, and you can expect decent velocities from them. It is the SHOOTER that makes the difference and is the determining factory on what the distance limitations should be.

What color is the primer fill?

Just a couple coyotes and jackrabbits. They worked like a champ. But I run a #60 wire bit down them. I will be testing them in NM on pronghorn in August. Unfortunately, I won't be able to test them on AZ pronghorn again this year, makes 24 years in a row. Maybe I will draw a deer tag. I know a couple guys who have used them on pronghorn and Coues.

Nothing here. Can't believe Taylor didn't draw a tag....besides the fact I put her in for early rifle bull. But she had 9 points for pronghorn. Still no tag, even with HER luck. I got nada too. Wasn't expecting a bull tag, but I only put in for early rifle, so wasn't even the least bit expectant. I am surprised I didn't draw a pronghorn tag with 25 BPs though. But that is my kind of luck. I suck at drawing tags.

At least you drew a tag!

My son-in-law drew a 7W late bull tag. His 4th in 5 years.

WTF.....I have 25 BPs....

You should see the video of how much of a dik Adam was to his wife on her javalina hunt! It is hilarious. No abuse, just maybe neglect....

Just shows how anxious people are, and how many guys are on the computer watching with anticipation for the hits to start rolling in. Me included.