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Half price of the total I pay for both? Deal!

.300WM vs. .300RUM is about 100-200fps. The .300RUM can be loaded down to .300WM levels, but not vice versa. But at more recoil, muzzle blast, and powder consumption. Both will get you to a mile easily with proper bullet choice and lots of practice. My choice, if you look at my stable, would be the R700. I am not sure of the mag length of the Savage, but the R700 LA is 3.800+, long enough to shoot 210/215s easily at mag length for a repeater in the .300RUM, and way long enough for the shorter cased .300WM. Both are a better choices than a .300 Weatherby....

I shoot 285 amax's out of my .338 and can attest to their performance on elk. I'm sure you would get similar results with the 208's. This is a mushroom recovered out of a big 350"+ bull at nearly 700 yards angling slightly towards. Bullet entered behind the shoulder and was found in front of the opposite hip under the just under the skinimage.jpeg Like comparing an F350 to a Peterbuilt. (apples and oranges just didn't do it justice)

I thought of that, and think that would be awesome!!!

Depending on cartridge, I have Berger HVLDs and Hybrids (and SMKs too) shoot very well from .010" to .150" off the lands. No need to jam them. Unless that is what your gun likes.

Great deal on great glass.

Similar to Bismuth crystals. But Bismuth are square pyramidal crystals, these are triangular pyramidal. And Bismuth is multicolored, this is black. But fantastic eye for similarities. Good call.

I now expect the Transformers to pay me a visit in the next couple days......maybe my wife's Camaro will turn into one!!!

So here it is. And the story behind it. Dubbed "Kenyonite" by my Granddad and Dad. My Granddad worked in the smelter in Douglas for Phelps Dodge smelting the copper ore. Huge furnaces were utilized to melt the ore, separating rock from metals. Every so often, they would have to clean the furnaces. They would pump extra fuel and oxygen into the furnaces and burn off all of the slag that would accumulate on the walls. Then they would let the furnaces cool for a couple days, and go in with a 4ga. shotgun on a tripod and shoot the walls to get the remaining slag that did not melt off. Only one time in my Granddad's 30+ years did they ever find anything like this. It was on the back wall of one of the furnaces next to a gas port when the furnace cooled. Never seen before, and never seen again. It is very heavy, has to have a high metal content. My Dad never got it sampled, but you should see the gemologist and geologists eyes when they see it. Priceless. My Dad has had it down to the Tucson Rock & Mineral show a few times, and those guys go ape over it. I have had my piece for 10 years or so. My Dad has had his for 30+ that I can remember. Not a spot of rust or corrosion over all that time. Here is my piece, the smallest of the "Kenyonite" pieces. Check out those crystals....

I dial for elevation, hold for wind, since it can change rapidly. I like a reticle that has hash marks at a minimum of every .5mil, and have two scopes that are marked at .2mil. The Steiner SCR and Kahles SKMR. Not too busy at all, but enough marks to make an accurate wind hold. My new S&B will probably have the H2CMR reticle. S&B H2CMR w. .2mil wind holds Here is the Kahles SKMR reticle that is in my K624i, probably my favorite reticle out there. The small .05mil center dot is great for precision work on paper or steel, and when on low power, it becomes part of the crosshair. You can see the .2mil subtensions which are really nice for accurate wind holds and corrections. And the SKMR vs. the SKMR2 with slight "Christmas Tree". Still not too cluttered, similar to the Vortex EBR-2A. And the Steiner T5Xi that I have has the SCR reticle. A great one for hunting. Still has the .2mil wind holds, but a small crosshair rather than a .036mil dot of the SKMR. Down on the lower powers (5 or 6x), both of these are almost a fine crosshair. Get them up to 8 and above, and you can start to make use of the subtensions for holds. I also prefer he EBR-1A over the EBR-2A in the Vortex scopes. The new EBR-7A of the new Vortex Razor AMG is similar to the SCR and but with a Christmas Tree too. For a military or LEO usage, where you might have to engage multiple targets, or something like a precision rifle course, where you have various distance targets, a Horus type (H59 would be my choice) reticle would be phenomenal. But a little too busy for my tastes on a hunting rifle. The H59 reticle. A little busy for me, but I can see where they would be awesome if you don't want to dial for elevation or wind, and for engaging multiple targets at varying distances.

Very cool looking build. I really like that look. Can't wait to see some groups.

I have looked at the Victory 2.8-20. Fairly lightweight ay 29oz,, glass is good, but the only mil reticle they offer is a mil-dot. They work, but so many better options out there for my taste. Also, I am not sure if they are a FFP scope or not, one of my main criteria.

210 SMK, 215 Berger Hybrid, 210 HVLD. They are all far more readily available right now than the 212 ELD-X. And should easily push to 2900+fps. I have taken, or seen game taken with the 210 HVLD and 210 SMK. I have been working up a load with the 215 Hybrids on the off chance I ever draw a bull tag.

After reading even more reviews, the March is out.

Thanks for the info. I am leaning further and further towards the S&B. 8 oz. isn't a huge weight gain for top tier glass.

On the 3-24x52, right?

He actually has 2 of them now that you mention it. One on his 7RM, and one on his .243. Thanks, I will see if I can swing by. But I was more hoping to look through the March to compare. I know the S&B quality.

What a lousy choice of magnification ranges. 1-8, 1.7-13, 2-16, 2.3-18. A 3-24 or 4-32 would have been a much better choice than the 2-16, with the other two being so close to that range.

I have researched these to death in every way but actually laying hands and eyes on them. It is not like a Vortex Viper HS, that everyone and their brother has one. Step to this level and it cuts out 99.5% of hunters and shooters. I have heard the March has a slightly finicky parallax knob, with 100 to Infinity being a fairly short throw on the dial, but it is manageable. But I usually leave my parallax on 200 when still hunting, so it has not been an issue before. Further than that, and I usually have a chance to dial it in. Thanks for the info though, never hurts to get other input from people who have done research.

Dear Lord, please let it be a LR scope with a tactical flair to it!!! Right before I buy my new glass too.

I will try and get a photo up this weekend, but I have a piece of rock with only 3 known in existence. Seriously. My Grandad worked for Phelps Dodge in Douglas, and found it. It came out in 3 pieces. My Dad has the biggest, my aunt the second biggest, and I have the third. MI e is about as big as my palm. My Dad has shown his to several geologists, and they always freak out. He has been offered some big money for his. I will explain the find when I post the photo this weekend. It is an amazing piece of mineral.

Oh boy.....new S&B 3-20 for my 7RM or new rifle? What a dilemma!

I do all of mine (about 4700+ currently fully loaded) on a single stage press. It sucks, but I get consistent results. I just do it one stage at a time. I try not to get too far behind, but last batch I ran was about 2000. I won't do that again. I worked on those all Christmas and New Year's four day weekends. And I still have to powder and seat bullets. My brother has a Dillon progressive, and he does his way faster than I can.

Did CJ pick these up? He asked me about the Shilen, and he has talked about building a .25-06 Ackley too.