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Finally had a chance to get some photos tonight.

Smoking deal for a great spotter! I have the straight version 20-70x82, and it is amazing. This doesn't really do it justice, but this photo was taken with my phone, through my Meopta spotter on 60x, at 1579 yards away........seriously.

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I am in. Rifle info: .260 Rem R700 SA BDL 26" Bartlein #3 1:8" McMillan Game Scout Timney 512 @ 1.5# Seekins 20MOA Picatinny rail & Seekins rings Schmidt & Bender PMII 5-25x56 w. H2CMR Load info: Lapua brass CCI BR-2 42.0 H4350 140 Berger HVLD 2850fps Taylor is in too. Rifle info: 6.5 SLR (that she called dibs on as soon as I mentioned this) R700 SA BDL 27.75" Bartlein "Sendero" 1:8" Manners T2A Timney CE @ 8oz. Seekins 20MOA Picatinny base & Seekins 6/4 rings Kahles K624i 6-24x56 w. SKMR Load info: Rem R-P brass FGGM 210M 41.5 H4350 140 Berger HVLD 2850fps

I used to do an online honor system shooting tournament 4 times a year with another shooting site. Theyou would send out a target in the mail, you would go shoot before a deadline and mail it back in to be scored. It was a 100 yards, 10 shot w. 1 bonus shot of you wanted to take a chance. Scoring was called out on each of the individual small targets, with bonuses available on a few targets. Target size ranged from 1" sized circles, to 1/4" sized circles. Some of the bigger cares had a very small target inside them for a ×2 score. One target was a 3 shot group. Something similar to this. Any interest in doing something like this? We could do a 100 yards shoot, then maybe a 200 yard shoot. If I get some interest, I will make a target to mail out. I would have you post up on a thread, with say 25-40 participants, post rifle and ammo specs, etc. Then PM me an address where to send the targets. Again, would be on an honor system for fun.

Meopta. For the $1k minimum savings, they are the best bang for the buck of the top tier brands. 98% of the Swaros.

Try a shotgun with #4 buck.....

The .300RUM really shines with the heavies, I don't know why they didn't market it more for 180s on the light end, and 210-220 on the heavy side. Even the 230s pushed to 3000+. If you want to shoot a 180, might as well shoot a .30-06 to .300WM. I would work up a load with a 200-215 bullet and hammer game for a long ways. For the 7RM, go 168-180gr. bullets and stretch it's legs too. You won't be sorry.

I like being able to drop the floor plate to clear my magazine without running the bolt. If you want a light stock, more so than your plastic stock, I don't think you are going to find one. Those Tupperware stocks are pretty light, but have a lot of flex to them. You can definitely stiffen up the stock with an aftermarket composite stock however. The B&C with the aluminum bedding block weigh about 2.5-2.7# each. Same with HS Precision stocks. If you want lightweight and stiff, you need to go with something like a Manners EH, McMillan Edge fill, or a B&C Alaskan Wilderness, B&C Medalist Ultralight, Stocky's/AG Composite CF, HS Precision Pro 2000 Ultralight, etc. Those are between 24-30 oz. Probably still just a bit heavier than your plastic though.

I have shot a Savage LRH factory completely stock rifle with a Vortex PST at 700+ that will match most custom LR rifles for accuracy. It depends on loads and shooter as much, if not more, than the rifle.

Keep both. I have both too. My .300RUM is a heavy LR hunting rifle. The 7RM is a lighter carry elk rifle. Both fully capable of long shots, but built for different purposes. .300RUM pushing 215 Hybrid @ 3100fps, 7RM pushing 180 Hybrid @ 3000fps.

I honestly cannot hand hold 12s and see as much as with 10s, too shaky for my liking. Just me. But I can see a big difference in 15s on a tripod to 12s on a tripod. I have 10x42s, 15x56s, and a 20-70x82 spotter. All have there pros and cons. All get used....a lot.

Not technically designed for your rifle's ballistics, but I had a Nixon M-223 3-12x42 on an AR for a while, and it was pretty good for the price.

What is your glass budget?

For 2017 draws: 27 for resident & non-resident Antelope 24 for resident 25 for non-resident Elk

Price drop to $900 for FTF. Probably the only drop. Posting on Snipershide tomorrow.

So what about something like this? Very similar, but some risk/reward opportunities. This is scaled for an 8.5" x 11" standard paper size. 9-10 shots. 1 @ each target, a 3 shot group, and 1 confidence shot at whatever you feel like, if you dare. But....if you miss your confidence shot, you lose both shot's points. Hit the star and add 10 points where available. Touching the ring counts as a hit. For multiple ring targets, you get the points for the furthest out ring you hit. Stay inside the next ring, get the higher points. On the offset rings, if you hit at 10:00-11:00 on the target, you get the lowest points. Get it? 3 Shot Group would be 100 points, minus group size x 100. IE a .500" 3 shot group would net you 50 points. A .250" group would net you 75 points. Plus if you hit the star, an additional 10 points. Over a 1" group gets 0 points. No penalties for groups over 1". I see a total available points=305. The red star on the bottom ring target can only be shot at once, no confidence shot at it. No Lead sleds, vices, etc. Triclawps, etc. Must be shot from prone, seated, offhand or bench, with front and rear supports OK. Bipod & bag, two bags, ruck, freehand, etc. No micro adjustable devices. No rear rifle mounted monopod. I don't care if you shoot a .223 or a .338 LM. I will better define rules on a new sign up thread in a few. What questions do you have? Let's get them addressed here.

Great deal!

Thanks!

I would be interested in the stock. Where are you located?

Still crossing my fingers.

What powder?

Subway has a notice about price increases as as results on minimum wage increase posted right on the glass counter. So did another restaurant, but I can't remember where.

A very quick description of my 400 yard ladder test procedures. 1. Sight rifle in, and verify drop at 400 yards. 2. Load 1 round of each charge weight, from starting weight, to a full 2 grains above book max. Bullets should be loaded.jammed into the lands if possible. This will give you the highest pressure, and will show where your rifle's max load is. For example, if book minimum is 39.0gr of H4350, and max is 44.5gr. of H4350, load in .5 grain increments from 39.0 to 46.5gr. 39.0, 39.5, 40.0, 40.5, etc. Then go set up a target at 400 yards. Verify POI on a separate target that you are pretty much center hits. The target will need to be between 16-24" tall. Start with your lowest charge weight, and shoot. Mark the shot as #1. Continue to shoot and mark each shot, always using the same point of aim. Do not adjust once you start. Stop shooting at the first sign of pressure. Flattened or cratered primer, stiff bolt lift, ejector marks or swipes on case head, etc. You should see 2-4 consecutive rounds in a good horizontal plane with little vertical dispersion , within 1" or so. Meaning charge weights have the same POI. Like 42.0, 4w.5, 43.0, 43.5 all within an inch vertically. These are called an accuracy node. Where variation in charge weight and velocity do not make difference in vertical.dispersion. where the barrel pauses for a microsecond in the sine wave during the barrel flex when the bullet leaves the barrel. You can see two distinct nodes on this target. Shots 1-3 are a low node, and shots 6-8 are a higher node. Even 5 is close to the same vertical elevation at 400 yards. This gives you wiggle room in charge weight and velocity differences that will not effect POI very much downrange, and allows the best chance for accuracy. You can see 4, 9, 10, are scattered up and down. Here is another rifle load workup I did, but at 300 yards. I prefer 400, but this was all I could do that particular weekend. You can still see two nodes. 1-3 & 6-9. Here is my .300RUM ladder test at 400. You can see a great node 9-11 at the top. This is a .300WM I did development for. Two nodes again. 3-5 & 7-9. Here is my 7RM ladder test. Again, two good nodes. 5-8 & 11-13.

Put a kiddie pool out in your backyard. The Eurasians will flock to it. Then break out the pellet gun.