lancetkenyon

8-9" twist in .284/7mm is always a good choice.

Does that bum you out? Not even a little bit.

Let me guess....you are going to want to shoot a 143 ELD-X or 140 Accubond...

Shooter. I would most definitely say very few people can shoot a 1/2" group, even if the rifle is a 1/4" gun.

This. You can get faster 6.5 rounds for sure, but factory loadings and all of the 6.5CM fans will foam at the mouth over this as a hunting round. That being said, there are older, faster and more efficient 6.5 rounds that still fit in an SA. 6.5 GAP 4S, 6.5 SS, 6.5 SST, 6.5 WSM, 6.71 Phantom (Lazzeroni), and a few other wildcats.

Sit. I have rifles that I know will start to open up at 100 rounds, so when I get close, I clean. I have others that will go 200-600. I keep an accurate round count and cleaning schedule data, so I know when I am getting close.

Factory rifle? 1. Shoot one, clean for 10 shots. 2. Then shoot 10, clean, done. Custom rifle with a good barrel? 1. Shoot one 2. Shoot one 3. Shoot one 4. Repeat 1-3 until accuracy falls off. I have several rifles that will shoot in the .1-.2s all the time that have gone through this method. I highly doubt a "break in" would have improved anything. More damage is done by improper cleaning than shooting. When I do clean, it is a complete strip. I use Shooters Choice #7 and Sweets 7.62 for copper removal. Last clean of several rifles with up to 200 rounds through took 2 passes with Sweets to get all copper out. A good barrel should not need a lot of cleaning.

Thanks!

I am not a fan of radial brakes. They work GREAT. But they blow dirt, sand, rocks up into your face and all over your rifle when shooting prone or sitting. I hate that.

Your mailbox is full. Interested for my brother. Take PayPal? Ship to Glendale, AZ?

I cannot glass for extended periods with my spotter. I use my 10x42s for glassing out to a mile. Then switch to my 15x56s and re-glass anything from 800 and out to 2 miles or so. I spotted antelope at 7+ miles with my 15s according to a map I checked later. Spotter is for a closer look at game a long ways out.

Try Eric @ AxisWorks. He is a machinist by trade, and a perfectionist by design.

My 7RM with APA Micro Bastard brake in 1/2-24 is turned to blend with the #3B Bartlein. Eric @ AxisWorks has his own line that is similar. Again, turned down to blend with a #3B Bartlein.

Hmmm.....I see your 24....

That is sexy right there...

Heavy barrel channel?

Varmints, javis, antelope, Coues, long range prairie dogs, Mulies, lions, meth heads, etc.

Do you think the 95gr will have problem feeding from a 700 SA box? I know the 90gr is 1.17" any idea on the 95? The .22-250AI is a fairly short case compared to other SA cartridges. I think seating the bullets long would not be a huge issue. 90 VLD OAL is 1.25". 90 SMK is 1.171". I would think the 95 SMK would have to be around 1.20-1.25"? Most SAAMI COAL are in the 2.35 range. Case length is 1.9079 max. Factory R700 SA magazine box is 2.865". A Wyatt's box will get you another .130", for a total of 2.995" inside. My 6.5 SS (case length of 2.035" IIRC?) pushing a 150 SMK seated WAY out is at 2.9895". 150 SMK bullet length is 1.46" OAL.

Bartlein 1:7". Set it up to shoot even the new 95 SMKs, and everything else will shoot great. The Berger 90 VLD should still shoot well with the velocity you should get. Or a 78gr Cutting Edge MTH. Anything else will shoot lights out from 55gr and up. I have thought about a .22-250AI or .22-243AI fast twist for quite a while.

Depending on final MV (2750-2850), I would think 650-800 on deer, 500-600 on elk.

My son-in-law is a Ford mechanic @ Rodeo Ford in Avondale. He does side work too.

Could have been legally shot, gutless method, and then just take the antlers of a small bull. Could have been legally shot, but not immediately found. Meat was bad when it was located. Salvaged the antlers only. But probably neither of the above.

I have a buddy who had a custom rifle built in 28 Nosler. Intended use is LR elk and deer, using the 195 Berger Elite Hunter. Basically a clone of a mutual friend's rifle, that shoots the same bullet into the mid .2s @ 3150fps. Built by the same gunsmith, using almost identical components. Well, the normal load for this combo/reamer is: Nosler brass CCI BR-2 primers RL33 powder (85.0 starting to 89.0gr. max) 195 Berger Elite Hunter bullets There are reasons why we start low and work up. Just because a load is safe in other rifles, does not mean it is safe in every rifle. Here is a good lesson in reloading safety, and how to look for signs of pressure. And why we do not start high to try and automatically wring every bit of speed we can out of the rifle. He was having issues that we could not verify. High velocities, poor accuracy, etc. After trying several charge weights in the normal load range towards the high side, and not having any luck, my buddy gave me a call to see if I had any suggestions. We talked several times over the phone, and with his sporadic results, he threw in the towel and called me again. He had 100 pieces of new Nosler brass, and had used 50 of the original 100 in his development attempts. With a total of 98 rounds fired, and nothing to show from it. I got the components from him, and he had about 20 pieces of brass that were twice fired that he said the primers just fell out. Upon examination, it was apparent to me there was severe over pressure issues. Case head swipes & ejector marks were present. Velocities were way above where they should have been as well. 3200-3250 for charge weights in the 86.0-88.0gr range. Unsure if it was a charge weight issue, chronograph inconsistency/inaccuracy, or something else, we decided to go back to the drawing board. Here are a few of the case heads. So I decided to just start from scratch. We cleaned the rifle to get it back to a clean bore. 1st patch, with Shooter's Choice MC#7, showed a lot of copper fouling. I use Sweet's 7.62 as a copper solvent. This is strong stuff, and works very quickly. Usually 2 or 3 rounds with a 10 minute soak is all it takes to remove all copper fouling. This rifle took 13 rounds with 10 minute soaks to remove all the copper. #12 pass There were about 20 pieces set aside that were resized, cleaned, and primed, marked "ready to load". Since I was starting from scratch. I decided to pull apart the loaded rounds, resize all the brass, tumble, trim, anneal and prime. I found this on one of the "ready to load" cases. I did not get a photo (stupid me), but under this, was a pinhole in the shoulder. I pulled apart all of the loaded rounds. Here were my findings when I did. Scale set to 0 (red marks are .1 & .5 gr. above and below) Verify with a 10 gram weight (154.323 grains) After resizing, tumbling, and re-priming, I had another 11 pieces that the primer seated with zero resistance. I could push the primer out from the inside by hand with a tiny punch. At this point, I set aside all of the fired brass and am starting with virgin brass. So I sized, tumbled, and annealed the 50 pieces of virgin brass. I started at 84.0 grains of RL33. Should be plenty low for this reamer.....right? Loaded up 10 of the 84.0gr. rounds, and a ladder test starting at 84.0 up to 89.0gr to go out and shoot at 400. So, range day! My favorite. 1st two rounds.....no signs of pressure....... Because I had two misfires.... I took one primed but unload case, and popped one off. Hmmm.... So, I had a fairly good idea what velocity should be with the 84.0gr charge weight round , I figured 3000fps with the data I have collected with a few other 28 Noslers..... First shot @ 432 yards hit about 1" low of POA. Not too shabby. But....... 3141fps with an 84.0gr charge weight??? Maybe the clean barrel.....2nd shot with the 84.0 charge weight. Way, WAY faster than it should be. So I shot a total of 6 rounds of the 84.0 to see if it continued. Nothing outrageous for pressure, but I guess I am not shooting the ladder test today.... So, back to the drawing board....again. Glad Is started a full grain lower than recommended. Virgin brass Fired case (from the 84.0 charge weight) So I went down 4 full grains more to start over. Ladder test is from 80.0 to 89.0 now. I am sure I will be pulling apart the top row, but kept it just in case. After shooting, and talking with the gunsmith, I am thinking the bore is a tight one, and is building pressure much sooner. He said he has seen this in one other rifle out of 25+ builds. I will update this thread as the development progresses.

My dad took me ever since I was tall enough to reach a light switch. That was seriously his criteria. Small game, dove, rabbits, lizards, quail. He taught archery at summer parks & rec. We also fished a ton. First big game hunt was when I was 14 for archery deer and turkey. Took me a year, but I got my first Turkey and I was hooked for life. Looking back, he has only taken 1 big game animal ever. A ride deer. A very small forkie up on the Kaibab with me about 20 years ago.

6.5mm 127 LRX @ 3020fpsMV. Shot was 637 yards. 637 yard retained velocity was probbably around 2070fps. 650 was our limit for that bullet. Further out would have used the 140 HVLD for better retained velocity and better SD and expansion. Smashed onside front shoulder blade, shattered a vertebrae, exited offside shoulder. Deer dropped in his tracks. Copper bullets need more velocity to expand properly over the lead core bullets. But I still like 1800fps minimum even for a lead core. I also zapped a muley at 488 pushing a .257" 100 TTSX @ 3650MV. Deer didn't even react at the shot. Bullet travelled about 36" of deer before exiting. Entered neck/shoulder junction, exited offside hip of a hard quartering on deer. I think copper definitely has it's place, but not in every situation. Same with any bullet type.