ArizonaWildernessHunter

I would like to thank everyone in helping me prove a point. We as a Coues Whitetail Forum Community need to be supportive of each other and not behave in an inappropriate manner. You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this bulletin board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, or invasive of a person's privacy. Please do not use profanity or use masked profanity (i.e., symbol substitutions in place of some letters in profanity). We try and maintain this forum as a place where families with young children can visit without worrying about exposing them to inappropriate content. If you see a post that you feel is innappropriate please notify a moderator.

Maybe this whole topic should just be deleted at this point. Tried to illustrate that a problem exists and people are just getting ticked off. When more problems happen later on oh well. If there is a way for me to do it I would since I opened up this can of worms.

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I would like to thank everyone in helping me prove a point. We as a Coues Whitetail Forum Community need to be supportive of each other and not behave in an inappropriate manner. You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use this bulletin board to post any material which is knowingly false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually oriented, threatening, or invasive of a person's privacy. Please do not use profanity or use masked profanity (i.e., symbol substitutions in place of some letters in profanity). We try and maintain this forum as a place where families with young children can visit without worrying about exposing them to inappropriate content. If you see a post that you feel is innappropriate please notify a moderator.

Might want to take a look at a Redding T-7 Turret press. Kyle Brown shot a 4.2" ten shot group at 1000 yards for a world record in 2003 using one of these. I think he indexed to minimize runout. This press would let you keep your 9mm and 270 dies ready to go at all times. Till recently HSM was using Dillon presses exclusivity for their Trophy Gold ammo. I have a few boxes left of their 30-06 ammo and it keeps under 5/8" at 100 yards. Single stage is more accurate but slower. Depends on your needs at this time. All the Redding and Dillon stuff is really nice. If you see any good deals on RCBS don't pass them up since the final results will be good as well.

Every case I know of occurred when they were right next to each other or as I call it stacked up (not like stacking a show dog). I have seen two of these done with a shotgun, one with a bow, and was told about one with a 300 win. The guy with the 300 win I think killed three at the same time while they were eating on something during his elk hunt. This is the 1st one while running without them within a foot of each other and no shotgun to top it off. That is awesome!

Great topic Was thinking about trying some jump shooting this year and was wondering with steel shot how close you need to be to effectively kill ducks or geese. I was given some Remington 3" #2 steel and Winchester 3 1/2" T steel (these are not hypervelocity loads, more like standard magnums). These seem to pattern well with Carlson chokes (mod for T shot and full for the #2 shot) in my Versa Max and would also check with my Pattern Master choke if using the T shot on geese. I know how tight a pattern needs to be to kill a turkey with HD shot or lead plated shot. I once tried steel T shot on a coyote and penetration was really poor compared to lead. I assume the number of hits and the yardage will play a big role. Seems like we get some good activity on 5000-6000 ft waterholes for a couple weeks each year. Thanks Stewart

I mostly hunt 8, 6A, 6B, or 21 for whitetail. Last year I got an old 107" buck in 6A (at one point this buck was over 120", but got more mass and less length) after waiting years to get a tag. The place the buck hanged was not very conducive to archery. I hunt 19A for mule deer since I know of a few 180" plus mule deer. Every year I see 100" Coues in 19A but I have never seen anything close to 130". Now an area with a 130" would be a honey hole. To address the issue of bucks and fawns. You have to have breading occur to get a fawn. I have seen around 17 adult whitetail does this summer (I have seen well over 100 WT does in other units), ONLY 3 fawns (what is wrong with that picture), one 80" 3x3, and two 2x3 bucks. Only one of these bucks was near the fawns. No spikes or 2x2 bucks. Lions will kill a lot of bucks in a short period of time. I have seen 2 different lions in the last year in this unit. One was after shooting light in my headlamp and the other a mile away. I have seen coyotes hunting deer twice this summer. One time was while talking with a friend about the coyote problem in the area. I think that he was a little surprised to see 3 coyotes after 1 mule deer doe. So 19A has some issues that might not be realized by people new to the area or don't live in the area. I live in 19A next to prime whitetail habitat. I glass the area about 4 days a week with a Swarvoski STX 25-60 so I am confident that I know what hangs out in the area. I can easily glass up 2-3 bucks a day in units 8, 6B, 6A, 21, and 22 if I get off the roads a couple miles.