Here's my Dad, this year. He's been hunting the same valley in the Allegany mountains (southern NY) I think for 47 years. He's 70 now. I haven't been back for deer season for 7 years. I need to make it next year. A few years ago he started complaining about how heavy his rifle was. I bought him the titanium Remington 700 in the picture ay Don's. I made him cough up his 1962 Winchester Model 70 before I gave it to him. I scoped the model 70 this year, bought the cheapest ammo at sportsmans and the first three rounds out of it grouped 5/8" at 100 yards. I'll bet that rifle's killed 100 deer.