Big or Bust

I have 4 scopes for sale. All are matte, with each manufacturers duplex style reticle. All scopes have never been in the field and are in excellent to nearly new condition. 1 - SOLD 2 - Sightron big sky 3-9x42 - light ring marks seen in photo- $250 shipped 3 - Leupold vx-2 2-7x33 with CDS ( MOA no custom dial coupon) - $290 shipped 4 - Leupold VX-II 2-7x33 with M1 elevation turret - $290 shipped Will accept full, partial, or partial plus cash on my end trades on Leupold scopes with M1 elevation turrets (VX2 or VX3 and at least 3-9x) or stainless Remington 700 rifles in .30-06. Timestamp wins. Some have original boxes, some do not. Scopes are all in excellent condition. I am in Tucson and can do a FTF in the vicinity. I can text photos if you will PM me your number. Thanks for looking and have a great day -

For kids, I'd fret the stock choice/LOP as much as the cartridge and what "long range" means to the kids. I'd not try to make them fit into a 13.5" LOP stock which is standard. I'd run a 12.5" LOP stock so they can have a better cheek weld/sight picture. Or, you may be able to get away with it running a scope like a Leupold VX-II fixed 6 as it has massive eye relief and a very generous eye box so you can play with the scope mounting latitude. For cartridge selection, I wouldn't get too fancy. A 6.5's recoil (dependent on the kids of course) with the aforementioned cartridges above with anything but mild 100's or 120's may be a bit much to practice with, which I'll assume they will do if you want to shoot "long range". For 400 yards and in, I would run a vanilla .243, load an 80 grain TTSX at mediocre speeds (under 3,100 or so), get a stock that fits them, run good glass with enough eye relief, and kill you lots of deer. Recoil will be mild to non-existent to us, but if we're talking kids, this is my recommendation. Find a youth model 700 in .243, bed it, and shoot it is what I'd do. Leave grandpa's gun alone...

Viper sold - Other scopes updated with newer, reduced prices.

Checked cams in the desert this afternoon and low and behold had this little guy. He was the biggest of a bach group of 4 bucks... Not real wide but not a bad desert buck...

Stuck bullet is likely an uncharged case. Yellow stuff? I would ditch all reload and and start over. Ps - get a tumbler.

I've been a lurker for a long while now but finally decided to register. Happy New Year's everyone - My wife and I moved to Arizona a couple of years ago and I've been pretty much obsessed with these deer since. Coming fom Texas, we have plenty of whitetails and it took me a bit to adjust to scoring 140" deer to 100" deer. He is just shy of 100" and was pretty rutty in early November, believe it or not. I was able to sneak within 350 yards of him only becasue he was running does all over the mountain. Here is the deer I took this year in early November. I just wanted to contribute since I read these forums almost daily. This years deer: Last years 84" deer relatively fresh to Arizona.

Midwayusa says end of July but they've been wrong for the last 4 months or so...

Impressive shooting for sure, and that's a hot load!

Just as the title block states, if you have one of these scopes I would be interested in purchasing or trading for it. I have many other scopes I can barter with, as well as bullets, brass, etc.... Thanks and Happy 4th!

Good post -

The 6x45 in a AR platform and a 2.26" or so max OAL will allow you to shoot heavier bullets in 6mm vs. .224" with the constrained OAL. The only 70 grain buller you can reasonably run at 2.26" withour sacrificing significant poweder capacity is the 70 Sierra SMP which has the BC of a mattress. Running something like the 53 grain .224" Amax will get you to 400 easily in the vanilla .223 with a 2.26" OAL. You will also get there with a 75 Vmax in 6x45 at 2,900... I'd check out the 6 or 6.5 DTI that Mike at DTech has to offer dependent on what direction you want to go. good luck -

Stomp, Don't run the numbers then for the .300 WM, or even the '06 against the .260 slinging bullets such as the heavy'ish Berger or Lapua offerings with BC's exceeding .6 or even .7. Run the numbers on a 155 .308" scenar in the .308 as well. There are some really good .308" bullets.

A .260 is a fine cartridge and is about perfect for deer. It was my primary rifle for over 5 years a while back. Components are easy to find and/or form (I'd be thinking Lapua cases). Barrel life is forever, recoil is negligible. With 130's and 140's you'll notice a bit more than a .243 but relatively speaking the .260 has very little recoil. The rifle stock fit and configuration will likely be more important in your felt recoil. I'd be thinking high BC bullets, which is why 6.5mm's shine. Topping this list would be the soon to be released 129 Nosler LR Accubond. Close begind would be either the 130 or 140 Berger offerings, or even the 123 Scenar. The 140 Ballistic Tip would be a good long range performer as well. Get you a Leupold with an M1 and a good LR, you have a legitimate 700+ yard cartridge if you want to put in the time. Dependent on barrel length, powder, and your handloads, if you maximize the cartdige's potential, you can generally expect 3,150+ with 100's, 2,900+ with 120's, 2,800+ with 130's, and 2,700+ with 140's... What rifle are you pondering purchasing?

I ran a 6x45 for quite a few years and played alot with it,. Also killed a bunch of stuff too. Reasonable velocities in a 20 to 22" barrel are 2,750 to 2,800 with 85's, 2800 to 2850 with 80's, and 2,950 to 3,000 with 70's and 75's..... Best 2 powders for me far and away for BOTH velocity and accuracy were Ramshot TAC and H335. Both are really good but H335 was generally a bit faster and more accurate. I ran the 80 TTSX at 2800'ish and the 85 SGKHP at 2,725 or so. Both I could never keep inside a deer. The 75 grain Vmax is also a good one. I could generally push this bullet to nearly 3K as it has less bearing surface the the 70 Btip which equated to higher velocities before pressure signs. Neck up .223 brass, no fireforming required, and commence to shoot. Good luck with it. For deer specifically, I would have no issues running a 70 grain Ballistic Tip as I could hardly keep one of these in a deer either. At impact velocities of the 6x45, the 70 BT is far less frangible and gives excellent penetration.

Thanks for the kind words. Let's drop the price to $1,050 which includes the components described above. Again, local or regional sale is preferred. This is a very nice rifle in great shape.

I have a low post count on this board but am active on other boards. Members I know on CWT can vouch for me if needed. I am selling this rifle for a good buddy who is more into bow hunting than cheating with a rifle (as he calls it). I have the rifle in my possession. This is a factory Remington 700 Sendero in .300 Remington Ultra Magnum. Is is stainless, fluted, with black flutes as seen in photos. The rifle has exactly 39 rounds through it as he had 11 of the the original load of 50 that shot perfect out of the gate. The factory trigger is excellent. This gun shoots very, very well with 180 Accubonds and IMR 7828. The gun has killed 2 elk and has mostly been shot at the rifle range. It is used but in excellent condition. The rifle sale includes 100 count of Nosler .300 RUM brass (50 new, rest once fired) and 50 180 grain Nosler Accubonds. This is easily $200 in components that are hard to find right now. $1,100 for the package Local or regional pickup preferred. I am in Tucson. I will ship and insure the rifle for $35 more. First I'll take it gets the rifle.

6 for 6 in 36c this weekend - Wife Mine solo Both were hellacious packouts -

I guess, gut at 5.5lb it has to be a vx3and40mm There is a neglible weight difference between the older vxii or vxiii's and the VX-2's or VX-3's...

PM's returned. Still looking for a pair of 15x56's...

I am looking for a gently used pair of 15x56 Minox, not the 15x58 version. Please PM me pictures, model number on box, condition, approximate age, and price if you have a pair available. Thank you very much -

Size, weight, and eye relief mostly... Thanks -

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Correct - RL-17 may be "sensitive" relatvie to other extreme powders but you won't notice much until you get to pretty far below zero. In Arizona I imagine you are just fine -

That is slow, especially in a 24" tube... Try Hunter, RL-17, RL-19 or a plethora of other suitable powders. Shooting that bullet would want me to get to at least 2750 on the low end, 2850 on the top end with accuracy before I would be satisfied with that setup. Good luck -

Did you go see the petroglyphs while you were in there? I've only recently seen coues in there, even in the valley flood below the pond there. Good luck and keep us posted -