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The other thing to consider is to really pattern your gun to know your max effective range you would need to shoot how many times? I am glad you shot it at 40 yards but what does it look like at 45 and 50? What is your true max range? Also how close is to close? What does it look like at 10 yards? Baseball size or smaller? I like to have at least a volleyball sized pattern or larger. Smaller than that and it's easy to miss. Also beyond 40 how effective is #9 tungsten going to be at breaking a turkey spine?

I put in for that tag 1st choice (Archery) with 17 points and drew my second choice. Spend a lot of time in there and saw 2 GREAT goats in there this year. Good luck, there is a great one in there right now.

I got the same results as Eli, those TSS rounds are amazing. Stupid expensive but they group way better than any other ammo on the market using the same choke. My boy shot his last year with the TSS 9,8,7 mix. Deadly on turkey. Still hard to wrap my mind around those prices on TSS, but IMO worth it.

Dang dude, glad life didn't go completely sideways for ya.

My son’s turkey gun is a 20 ga so the tss #9 was a little cheaper. Bottom target was a Remington #5 nitro turkey at 30 yards. Top target was a TSS#9 at 40 yards. It was impressive.

That's the price for only 5 rounds too, $14 every time you pull the trigger. I used to think twice before buying ten rounds of tungsten shot for $40. Lately I have been shooting Winchester longbeard XR copper plated lead $25 for 10 rounds but that is getting harder to find. Good thing I still have a couple boxes.

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********* UPDATE ********* After my initial post I picked up some APEX TSS turkey shells. I figured I would share my results to help others save some money! I went with the Apex GT-20, 3”, 1 5/8’s OZ, 9 shot (20 Guage). I chose these shells due to the recommendation of the choke manufacture. Gun is a semiautomatic 20 Gauge Beretta Ultima Turkey (24” barrel). I have it topped off with a Trijicon RMR red dot and an Indian Creek .570 choke tube. The 40 yard target had 60 pellets in the 5” circle and 155 in the 10” circle for a total of 215 pellets. (I did have to make a slight sight adjustment after this shot) 20 yard target. Sorry I couldn’t get the photo’s to upload correctly! ************* Original post ************* Good afternoon, I’ve been looking through the regs and I can’t seem to find anything regarding legal shot size for turkeys. Does anyone know if there is a regulation on shot size in AZ? After doing lots of research on turkey loads, the TSS 9 shot seems to be incredibly lethal. So, I just want to ensure I’m good to go before spending the $70! Thanks, Cameron

I was able to fill my tag on day 4 in 19b this year. Typically I apply for a tag for ham and always pickup a leftover rifle tag. With my kids schedule this year, I opted for just one hunt so I decided on the rifle hunt. I had a good buddy from Prescott also apply and was drawn. On day 4 of the hunt, we were struggling and not seeing much sign. We decided to walk a long canyon that ended in a tank close to a road. After walking almost 2 miles up the canyon we had discovered pig caves, fresh bedding areas and hidden water with sign. We knew we were getting close. My buddy was in the bottom of the canyon and I was on the rim. I pointed out another hole which I thought was a pig cave and my buddy, in the bottom investigated. As he was climbing the side of the canyon a rock slipped and he went tumbling down. His leg caught another rock and bent a way no leg should go and I heard a loud crack. After his initial panic, he scrambled and straitened his leg back to its natural position. I scaled down to him. Only a 15 foot deep canyon with deep walls. After a while we decided to try and see if we could at least get him out of the canyon. It was a struggle but we finally did it. He could not put any weight on it without completely crumpling. He was trying to use his emptied gun as a support but it was not working so well so I decided to try and use my saw and make a crutch out of some deadwood near by. It actually worked pretty good and were able to get up and out of the canyon the rest of the way. I told him to stay put and I would try and get my side by side as close to him as possible. Of course we were in an area that zero cell service. I dropped everything except my rifle and a water bottle and headed back to the vehicle. As I got to within 200 yards of the side by side I came across a javi herd working their way up the canyon. I aimed on the lead pig and dropped it in its tracks. I quickly threw it over my shoulder and got back to the gator. I was able to find a small 2 track that got me close to my friend and off roaded another couple hundred yards to get to within about 100 yards of him. By this time, a lot of pain had subsided and we were able to get him to the gator with the aid of the crutch. A heck of a hunt and a humbling experience. My friend is a combat marine who did 2 tours in Afghanistan and a loose rock turned a short hike in gentle terrain into quite an ordeal. I learned his leg didn't break but dislocated and tore tendons and ligaments which need to be repaired. After this hunt I have decided to buy a spot gps.

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Thanks for all the replies! I’m fairly new to turkey hunting, so I’ve had to do a ton of research on turkey loads and different chokes. I found a YouTube channel called “Blue Collar Outdoors USA”. On their channel they share loads of information about different ammo choices and chokes on a multitude of different shotguns. After watching most of their videos I’ve narrowed my choice of ammo down to TSS and possibly the Winchester Long beard XR. However, the TSS completely destroys lead rounds. I ended up purchasing an Indian Creek choke tube in a .570 constriction. Indian creek recommends Apex or Foxtrot ammunition for their chokes. So, I’m planning on picking up some Apex green leaf or some of their other 9 shot shells to pattern my gun. If anyone’s curious how TSS rounds compare to lead shells or what choke constrictions are best. I would highly recommend you check out the YouTube channel I mentioned above. Thanks again for all the help 👍

Thanks for sharing 👍 What choke are you running?

Good thing Chris noticed that. I have put a lot of different tires on my 2000 F250 since 2-19-00. BFG's were ok and I got 40K out of them the only time I ran them. Nittos wore better but eh Falken's beat them both.

That’s all I could find as well. I figured there would be something more specific than just shot shells. Thank you for your response 👍

Pattern your gun then you’ll know full choke, I’m with wild wood shooting 5 shot yahoo I have a tag this year!!

Nice glass. Good luck with sale.

It really gives the smaller gauges like the 410 a leg up. The last Rio I shot was at 7 yards. TSS, 12 g. Bang Flop. Extra Full Choke.

Directly from the Arizona Administrative Code. Does not stipulate shot size, only that your shotshell loads are indeed loaded with shot. 13. A "limited weapon-shotgun shooting shot" season may use one or more of the following methods or devices for taking wildlife, if authorized under R12-4-304 as lawful for the species hunted: a. Shotgun shooting shot, b. Muzzleloading shotgun shooting shot,

I drew the tag in 2016. We saw around 20 bucks. Including some good ones. I shot a decent buck on opening evening. We also ran into 5 rattlers.

Added some color to the stock today . I was looking at blues but didn't like the test stock look . I think the green is a much better look . It still needs matte clear . Before and after.

I thought someone clocked my ex wife headed to Krispy cream.

Solid work!

dang !!!

She's done !! Still going to add some color to the stock but it's dang light for a 26inch barrel . Bare gun is right at 7lbs 4oz . Scope is like 27 Oz plus rings and a level and it should be around 9 lbs all in no suppressor . I've got two in jail and not sure which will go with the rifle.

Are we guessing on prices/value?