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This might ruffle some feathers but I’m all for kid’s drawing what ever great tags they can now because they will have zero chance in the future going forward. I’m fortunate enough to have my desert ram with low points. I chased odds not legendary units and still killed a B&C sheep. Just took a lot of work. My daughter is turning 10 this year and can start hunting. If she draws a sheep tag, early rifle bull tag, late December coues tag, or strip tag we will be fully embracing that given hunt and making sure it’s a memory she has for life. What’s to say a child’s memory hunting with family are not as valuable as someone that’s been putting in for years? At the end of the day it’s just luck of the draw. My dad and stepdad are in max points for antelope and sheep and they and I don’t feel they are owed a thing. Entitlement isn’t a good look for anyone. Good luck to all in the upcoming draws

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"Spray over your head and play dead" ... you are going to wish the bear would kill you and get it over with while you are choking and coughing from spraying over your head. I realize you don't get to plan for the wind in a real-life situation but when I tried out the COSTCO Bear Spray on some pesky Javelina, I accounted for the wind and still had quite the reaction.

funniest part is most people that cry put in units that goto max point holders every year 😂

I drew my tag in 2015 with 24 points and shared my camp with a hunter who drew with no points other than Hunter ed. So hope should spring eternal. That is the beauty of the Arizona system. Odds are long but not impossible.

Go back to the days when someone could draw an elk tag every 5 yrs, deer tag every yr, and antelope tag every 15. Back when we had to pay up front and loss those funds for 3 months. The serious hunters will save up all yr to make sure they have the funds. The ones that don’t have the funds didn’t want it that bad anyway. Oh but wait, G&F wont get the millions of dollars in app fee. Never mind dumb idea.

Also, you get to listen to Jay cry about an increase in sheep tags at least 100 times. More sheep tags = fewer people that will die before they can draw one = conservation projects are working. Way more sheep die of old and lions than hunters.

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This is the best Bear Spray instruction I have seen and below is a funny sign I have seen in Alaska

I'm sold on December in Mexico. I treat it like an Oct. Arizona hunt. Being able to get first crack at them, they've not been shot at so their out and about. I've had luck 2x during this month

Is max 39 now, that’s a lot of years. Maybe she got it passed to her when she was 17

How would you know about sheep? You still haven’t drawn a sheep tag yet.

So you were a resident and didn't buy a lifetime license? Ouch!

if bob thinks it’s well said, better reevaluate your thinking.

Piccata Paper plate crew. I put a ridiculous amount of capers on mine like that also

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I said it earlier in this thread and I’ll say it again, AZ has the best sheep hunting in the country, bar none, and has the best way of divvying them out in the country. You’ve always got a chance, and always working toward something. Squared points get destroyed by lower point tiers inflating the odds. Look at your chances of hard tags jn NV. My points go up exponentially every year but my odds actually stay the same or in some high demand areas DECREASE every year. I know everyone likes to complain about the G&F, and their abortion of an application website is worth complaining about but the quality and way of handing out tags is the best there is.

The odds of drawing a sheep tag with 30 points is actually 30 times better than with 0 points. It’s diluted but it’s a fact.

I just want to be able to post with my ram in my avatar!

140 tags and 25,000 applicants. Face the fact that it’s a long shot or don’t apply.

The odds difference between 0 points and 30 points is virtually nothing. It amazes me that some of you think a guy waiting 40 years should have no edge on the newbies. The system we have raises virtually no increased odds until you get to the bonus point pass. Nevadas squared point system is a more fair way for sheep in AZ. 40 years is a lot of money and time invested. A 10 year old who has drawn only because his dad applied him has little interest, zero time invested and should have much less odds than the person who has applied 40 straight years. Our current system gives very little to the long term applicant until you hit the bonus point pass. We don't have to pick a side, how about we improve the draw system. A lot of states are making changes for once in a lifetime species, but unfortunately Arizona can't even get the website to work correctly.

Going up the 31st to the 4th of June. Hopefully all the memorial day crowds will be gone. Will let you guys know how it went

Macallan12, great buck and congratulations on your success! Did you use a guide and if so, could you let me know who it was please?