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It doesn't matter, anywhere south of 10...

Rough green score 115 2/8" my picture taking skills are not the best of dead animals. It's body was absolutely giant with about an inch of fat all the way around.

Surprised that there hasn't been any 'trophy' pics posted from the past weekend's early hunts. My crew did our usual hunt and ended up killing a couple. Had a couple of old friends come in from out of state to join my son and I & some local friends. Buddy from Utah killed a 2x3 and my son killed a nice 3x3 with good eye guards. Was a great time! Anyone else have some luck on the early hunts? S.

Purchased last year and never used in the field...Pristine condition...Comes with factory packaging and unused warranty card ...Located in Tucson... Asking $2,500 OBO

Assisted a new hunter a couple days. Grass was chest high at some of my favorite spots. A lot of wind and weather down here as well. He did get a shot and missed but it was a tough shot. Didn't here too many rifles go off and didn't see as many people as I expected.

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It's been hot and heavy for 2 years now. Prime weather for activity and water everywhere. They know it too ..

Hey guys, got this guy last Sunday on day 10 of a tough hunt. The rut was sporadic at best with some days having almost no bugles during daylight hours. I've been getting caught up at work so haven't done a full write-up, this guy came in screaming with about 10 cows at 7:15 am when it had been quiet all morning. I had to wait at full draw for what seemed like ever for his cows to clear out from between us, but managed to make a heart shot. He only went about 30-40 yards before tipping over. I'm super exited. He's my biggest bull to date, and broke my drought. It's been a few years since I've put anything bigger than an turkey or javi on the ground.

I always vote no for all judges so they wont think that they are perfect. I cant remember a judge ever losing. Any Gun owner who votes for Kelley should have their guns taken.

So does this mean you won't send this to the dungeon?

Your assessment was pretty good. Hunt and judge bucks for me anytime! Hopefully, the score sheet or similar is posted. Regards

Great info. I voted already. I was suprised to see so many Judges on the ballot but didn't vote for any of them as I had no knowledged of them. I voted straight Republican just to keep the Demo's from gaining any ground to feed their agenda to reinstate the "Ban". KL is a certifiable nut case just like MTG. The SC is out of touch with RVW evident of that. Might be time to register as an Indy. Seems like Krysten is the only AZ politican with any active brain cells. Kelly is a panderer just lining his pockets and only has his longetivity in politics in mind.

Might be helpful to some folks. You can see who the judge donated to, and get other info. Cathi Herrod's CAP does a great job of trying to educate voters (especially us conservatives!). Sorry this is just a paste of an email I received as I subscribe and give to her organization. But you can punch the links in yourself and go do a little homework. About Those Judges…and Props You have probably made up your mind about who you are voting for in the Arizona Governor’s race, the U.S. Senate race, and other high-profile races, but what about all the other names on your ballot? It can be daunting researching school board candidates, city council members, and deciding which judges to retain. The most common question I get is about how to vote on the judges up for retention. At azaction.org, you will find tools to help navigate some of those races. The candidate donation report shows you the donations made by school board and municipal candidates, and judges up for retention. This gives you a good idea of the candidates’ political leanings and judicial philosophies. For example, if you search Scottsdale Unified School District under school board candidate donations, you will see an overview of how much money was donated by the candidates to other candidates or political parties. In the Scottsdale race, school board candidates gave more than $14,000 to Democrats, most of it coming from one candidate, Mary Gaudio. If you put her name in the search block, you will see she donated to Mark Kelly’s campaign, as well as other Democrats. Incidentally, Scottsdale school board candidates gave just over $1,400 to Republicans. You can do the same search for judges and some municipal candidates. For more on judges, go to azvoterguide.com and click on judicial retention candidates to see a judge’s bio, Judicial Performance Review Committee score, and how he or she ruled on certain cases. For example, under Arizona Supreme Court, if you click on Ann Timmer and scroll down the list of cases, you will see she voted against the free speech and religious freedom of the artist owners of Brush & Nib in 2019. You also will see that the following judges responded to our surveys. We sent surveys to every judge on the retention ballot, however, only a few responded. Most of those who responded did so by providing a letter about their judicial philosophy. For convenience, the following judges responded with a letter or survey answers, click here to read their responses: Arizona Supreme Court: Justices Beene, Montgomery, Timmer Maricopa County: Judges Herrod, Mata, Woo, Sukenic, Brooks, Korbin-Steiner No judges from other counties responded to the survey request. CAP Action doesn’t endorse or oppose judges for a variety of reasons. We don’t necessarily agree with the Judicial Performance Review Commission (JPRC.) 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Several years ago, we proposed reforms of how judges are selected and retained; however, we lost the ballot referral to change the system. Propositions Also at azvoterguide.com, you can get information on the many propositions on the November ballot, as well as CAP Action’s recommendations by clicking on propositions. If you then click on print CAP summary of props, you can access a printable document with brief descriptions, arguments for and against, and CAP Action’s recommendations. A shorter, easy to use graphic can be found by clicking on CAP Action’s recommended ballot positions. One proposition in particular that CAP Action opposes is Prop 211, which would require donors to political organizations like CAP to be made public, while it carves out exemptions for major liberal leaning organizations such as corporate media, big tech, and labor unions. It is a convoluted measure designed to silence some donors by opening them up to harassment and intimidation, while shielding favored groups. Read an op-ed I wrote with Arizona Free Enterprise Club President Scot Mussi here. One measure in particular that CAP Action supports is Prop 309, which would require valid identification to vote in person or by mail. It includes an opportunity for any valid voter without identification to receive an ID at no cost to them. Read more about Arizona Free Enterprise Club’s Prop 309 here. Another important measure CAP Action supports is Prop 132, which requires any ballot measure that seeks to raise taxes on Arizonans receive 60% of the vote to pass. Read more about this commonsense measure here. Many ballot measures are written by out of state special interest. The AZ Free News recently found those behind the effort to stop Propositions 128, 129, & 132 are almost all from outside Arizona. Just one percent (1%) of the funds behind the effort came from Arizonans. Read the article here. For your personal voter guide showing candidates just in your legislative and congressional districts, go to azvoterguide.com. To see CAP Action’s endorsements, click here. ICYMI Watch here how Kari Lake answers questions about Arizona’s abortion laws as they make their way through the courts. Read here how a pro-abortion activist is now in charge of the recent crackdown on pro-life advocates. Read here a column from The Republic that admits Katie Hobbs, Kris Mayes, and Julie Gunnigle have extreme views on abortion. Read here about California’s latest overreach. New laws will create an ideological purity test for police. Read here how a popular leftist newspaper coordinated deceptive propaganda greatly downplaying the humanity of unborn life.

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Just like when the govt prints more money, it makes the value of the dollar go down, Issuing more points devalues the existing points that are in circulation.

Better pictures here

Deer there get hammered but you will see a lot of deer. they did drop the tag numbers this year to like 1300 total tags between jr and general hunts. The numbers were much higher before at like 2500 total tags or close to that i think. I spent a few days there during the summer this year and saw plenty of deer. Lots of does and a few bucks.you will see so many does you will start trying to put antlers on them lol. Unit is managed for success and opportunities. First hunt is always amazing in my eyes and then it gets harder after that. The fire didnt hurt much from what i see.And there was plenty of water thru these droughts years. The deer know were its at and mt lemon all the drainages leak water out of springs all over the place. The fawn crop was great and lots of grass for them to hide so i am betting next year will be even better. Lots of hunters during every hunt but most hunt from all the roads all over the place. Put in work and it will happen. I know you got the late december tag so not many hunters but there will be archery guys. Rut will be slim to none existing. That hunt to me is a waste of points. Would rather have first hunt. Just my two cents.

Would you sell just the eye piece

I struggled. Not much deer movement at all, especially friday through sunday. Missed a big buck on monday, my buddy and i doubled up on a couple decent bucks this morning. All in all, it was a very tough year for me.

Thanks for the psa, but it can be both. This kid watched this buck for two years, cut a trail on a hillside that I am still feeling two days later. Has hours of video of it. Slept a quarter mile away from it. Put it to bed and most importantly worked for it. You can play a game and win on more than one level.

The "Score" was getting out there with friends and/or family. The deer is a bonus...and a toad.