I have built two. First; Winchester 270, REM700 LA ADL, 24" Lilja #3 barrel, tuned up REM trigger, Brown Precision pounder kevlar stock, Talley Lightweight rings and a Swaro Z3 3-9X36. Built by High Tech Customs in Colorado. Very light and very accurate with Hornady 140 SST Superformance ammo. Figured the 270 was about the most ideal Coues cartridge, especially with a 140 gr SST bullet starting at 3100 + FPS. SST has worked at least a dozen times Fromm 330 yards to 60 yards. Second rifle 6.5C in a Defiance Deviant Hunter with a 24" Brux #4 barrel, Trigger Tech Special in a Grayboe Terrain stock. Grayboe BDL magazine, Vortex rings and Leupy VX-6 HD built by Phoenix Customs. Doubles as a Silhouette Rifle, no trouble knocking down Rams at 500 meters. The 6.5C weighs 9lb 9oz, makes for a solid shooter at longer ranges with less recoil than the 270, the Creed works fine for shots out to 500 which is about as far as I want to shoot at a buck. I like the traditional stock profile because it handles naturally like a shotgun shooting quail you jumped up, just like bucks do sometimes.