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OK, you are REALLY talking about my preferences now. FFP Alpha glass. If you really want the best scopes money can buy, there are 3 brands I would suggest. 1. Tangent Theta. The TT315M is fairly lightweight @ 27.7oz. There is also the newly released TT315H with the same features, but a simplified reticle and locking turrets. They "only" have dual turn 20MOA turrets, so 40 usable MOA for elevation. I have shot my 6CM with one out to 1500 yards, so don't let the limited elevation scare you off. They can be hard to come by, but if you want one, they are worth the wait and price. I use CS Tactical for my purchases of the TT315M. Ask for Richard, and tell him I sent you. Also the heavier, but far more adjustable and feature rich TT315P. All three are 3-15×50, and have MOA reticles available. I own three TT315Ms with the Gen 2XR reticles. Also the predecessor to Tangent Theta, a Premier Heritage Light Tactical 3-15×50 and a Premier Heritage 5-25×56. I wouldn't own three if they were not amazing. I have shot them out past 1770 on steel and rocks. They are plenty for hunting at 1000+ yards. And the glass quality more than makes up for added magnification of other mid-range scopes. 2. Zero Compromise Optics. While they don't have MOA scopes available, MIL is easy to learn. I actually prefer MIL over MOA myself. ZCO 420 4-20×50. I own two now. They weigh in at 34oz, so a bit heavier. Features on them are like a Caddy. Very nice, and lots of them. Reticles in MIL are my favorite. MPCT1 is a simple .2MIL subtensioned crosshair. MPCT2 has a Christmas tree below. I have one of each. Wide FOV for the magnification, eye box is ridiculous, glass is unreal. Turrets are perfect, locking, and very tactile. 20x on top end is nice too. 36mm tube limits mounting options, but the ones that are available are top notch. I use ARC M10 rings for mine. Spuhr, Talley, Zeiss and a couple others are available too. 3. Schmidt & Bender. The scope that all others are compared to, and what they all strive to be. S&B has a few different models that fit the bill. PMII 3-20×50 or 3-20×50 Ultra Short. I have one of each. Big mag range, amazing glass, locking turrets, many reticle choices. New or used are plentiful. Ultra Short PMII 4-16×50. These are longer and heavier, but still a good choice. New or used available, but not as often as the 3-20 or 5-20. PMII 5-20×50 Ultra Short. I have one of these too. Shortest, lightest of the S&B PMII line. Amazing glass, locking turrets, but mounting options are very limited. I honestly don't know how or if these would fit on a LA. But on a SA, they fit well as long as you don't want to move it too far back. Can be had new or used easily. If you want to get behind any or all of them, let me know. We can meet at the range on some weekend.

As title says there are a few leftover turkey tags in 12a is it worth the drive from the valley and how's the weather in Oct .only hunted deer archery there a few Times.how's the bird population with a lot of tags seems it should be high

I’ve had somethin nasty since friday. Lungs are absolutely full of what looks like banana pudding. I’ve had Covid and it isn’t that. Been sick as heck though

the wife and i had confirmed cases of covid in jan-feb... right around javelina. lol (seriously had it, but timing worked great). I had a sore stiff back for a weekend, then lost my staste for 5 weeks or so. Other than that i was fine, just stuck watching cartoons for two weeks ha ha. She was knocked out. She was bed ridden for a solid week. couldnt break a fever felt miserable... then a week later back to normal all the way around for her. this current bug. her boss had it, she brought it home from work. and now the boy has it. sinus pressure and pain and just drained. not covid

Welcome to CWT and congrats on the tag. Where are you from? We’d love to hear more about you and what you might have insights on that you could share as well. Here are a few answers that might be helpful: The biggest pest on the Kaibab are the squirrels (including trucks and motors, be careful) They get into everything. There are tons of coyotes. No bears to speak of. The forest isn’t any more or less risky than any other public lands with the exception that during the hunts it becomes heavily saturated with guides and outfitters and other wannabe dudes. Hunter conflict does occur. Deer can be heavily concentrated in specific areas during the early hunt so you will encounter other people. Apply the golden rule and you’ll be fine. Most of the roads are actually pretty dang good by AZ standards. The rocks can be sharp so have 10 ply tires. You’ll be fine in a tent as long as you aren’t a sissy. Bring a giddy heater and it will help. But more than likely it will be warmer than you prefer. The area is saturated with roads so getting remote can be tough. Beware, there is almost 0 cell service anywhere except Jacob Lake or the East edge of the plateau. The water situation now doesn’t necessarily reflect what it will be in 3 months. If we don’t get anymore moisture water will be critical. There will be lots of tag-alongs with other tag holders. So there will be a lot of people there. But it will be a solid hunt. The deer tend to be concentrated in specific areas, if you aren’t seeing many deer move on. Some of those dense pine forests can be tough to turn up deer in. So don’t spend too long in one place if it’s slow. And be sure to grab some cookies, milkshakes and pie at Jacob Lake. The grand bull sandwich is also a personal favorite. Good luck and keep us posted.

Sometimes whitetail will throw one off the g2 to look kinda muleyish!

So I've just returned from chronographing the 45 70 Red Dot loads with Bucksandbulls. 12gr and 13gr loads with a 405gr cast lead out of a breach/break 32" barrel were exactly as advertised on the graph. When loading 15grains the extra 3 grains only saw a net gain of about 50fps.

4x4, Warn hubs, new tires BF Goodrich with spare. Extra 4 stock rims w good tires. AC blows, little rust, main seal leaks some, which also blows. 5spd, Jensen stereo. GN, trailer package. Only blemish, ol lady kissed a pole barn doing about 40mph backwards. Custom exhaust new clutch. Only 300k miles. No lowballers, no haggle, I know what I have. $37500 cash or trade for 2020 Dodge Cummins with similar equipment.

Mine was out off of Hawes and Elliot close to 10 years ago. They came in from behind me. I aimed at one and just as I squeezed off the shot the other one shifted it's path and down they both went. Damndest thing I ever saw.

Might have to keep your powder dry til you get a coveted crossing 2-fer shot. Good luck with your hunts (ammo hunting and dove hunting).

Huh? What are they upto now? A special randy Newberg season?

(Slightly off topic) Who would waist 20 years waiting for an elk tag. I've honed my craft by hunting elk on what people consider crappy tags. I would take a 4b November archery tag every year. Back to the question. If it was a sheep tag which I am now at 20+ years of waiting. If I had a similar ethical dilemma I would immediately call g&f and proceed from there. If not available (and we are speaking hypothetically) I may use the SSS method.

The more I think of it, I still see no real ethical dilemma or choice either way here. Cool that you shot the baby., and to Bonecollector's point, you did the calf a favor by ending it's apparent suffering more quickly than would have otherwise. It was hurting, and it was a legal animal. On the other hand, had you passed on the baby and killed the cow, honestly for me that would have been just fine, too. That baby became injured somehow and nature & the way of things were running their course (with or without you). I see no moral/ethical obligation to shoot or not shoot the baby either way in this case. (But obviously this is TOTALLY my own opinion only, and we all know what they say about opinions..... As I said earlier, good show!)

No it’s the 20th. But I’ll be scouting until it opens

Can only guarantee price till Thursday 8/5. Then add 5% for inflation.

I know what I have

Thanks for the raves on my 24" Craves. Wouldn't be a Bro-dozer without em, yo Make an offer $ Easee Monee

You put them rapper wheels on it G-Money?

There goes your shoulder mount for sure😀

Received nada. Did you text Derek? I'm posting these for him.

My daughter drew this hunt about seven years ago with 3 points when she was 13. You will shoot in order, based on the tag number. It was in the teens and below, 7 degrees opening day during the first week of December. After shooting the cow bison (Rachel) we hung it in the ranch barn, skinned and quartered it. We let it hang over night to cool (freeze). Returned the next morning to haul it out. The ranch manager will give you all the needed info when you arrive and you'll get a G&F info packet sent to you before the hunt. Things to have on hand; Several tarps for keeping meat clean while cutting/quartering or wrapping quarters or the cape for the ride home, should you not need ice chests. Bring a few friends, take turns cutting and thawing out your fingers. Extra help goes a long way. A vehicle or portable winch, they're really heavy. Tow straps or heavy rope are helpful. a quad ramp or similar to winch it into the truck. Several sharp knives, sharpener or a replaceable blade knife with a couple dozen blades. A portable propane heater if its cold, the wind can be brutal up there, helps thawing the fingers in the barn. A small generator and a sawsall with a few extra clean blades, longer is better. Everything froze, making bulk cutting difficult. If you don't cut and wrap your own meat, line up a butcher before the hunt, Dan Bix or Casey's are both good. We used Dan Bix and completely satisfied. Several extra large ice chests if you're going to cut it all up and take ti home or a butcher outside of flag. Then all the usual stuff too.......Maybe a back-up rifle. Best of luck, cows eat better than the big bulls too. Andy

More than worth it!

If you want to hunt turkey, it is worth the drive.

Probably Tahiti.

Wheres Bill???